Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.
Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.
I’m talking about October 2023.
Yes and we’re talking about decades of Israeli terrorism, predating Hamas.
Well no, not really, the thread is about Hamas and you are the first one to bring up Israeli terrorism.
But it’s not like Jewish violence in the region predates Muslim violence. The pogroms have been going since at least the 1920s. Things escalated. Nobody is saying Hamas was the start, but Hamas is the biggest problem right now.
Jewish violence in the region literally predates Muslim violence, Judaism came hundreds of years before Islam.
The biggest problem right now is Israel. step one is for them to stop murdering thousands of children.
Alright, I guess we’re being pedantic now.
Jews got expelled from the region and kept out of it by various European and Arab powers until they started buying land back in the late 1800s. From that point on, Jewish violence was not the start of violence in the region, it was Muslim violence and Muslim unwillingness to coexist with Jews. It ramped up well before 1987, well before 1948.
Israel is not targeting children. Hamas is using them as human shields. The “3000” number is from Hamas—it includes victims of rocket misfires, and also is a straight up lie, just like their count of the victims at Al-Ahli hospital was a lie. Yes, there are still too many children dying, and yes, too many of them still die as a result of Israeli air strikes. This is the main reason Israel wanted them to be evacuated. Every other country evacuates civilians from war zones, but Hamas cannot allow that, or else the statistics might not favor them. They use propaganda and physical force to keep Palestinian children in buildings that are specifically targets for bombs.
Hamas is, by far, the biggest problem in the region.
Sure. But was that a good reason for Hamas to murder civilians? Was it a good reason for Hamas to murder civilian citizens of Canada, US, UK and many other countries? FUCK NO. Hamas needs to be completely eradicated – PERIOD
Okay so let’s eliminate Hamas and Israel.
No. Eradicate Hamas.
No.
Eradicate Israel and Hamas.
Why do you support terrorists?
I don’t support terrorists. That’s why Hamas has to be crushed.
You support Israel, therefore you support terrorists.
Israel is terrorising the innocent people of both Gaza and the South Bank. 3,000 children are now dead at Israeli terrorist hands.
Reflect on yourself and why you support terrorists murdering children.
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Imagine you have never had enough to eat, imagine you have to spend 2-4 hours a day just going through checkpoints to get to your brutal low paying 8 or 10 or 12 hour job to support your family, imagine you live with six other families all crammed together in a single building. You never had a chance to go to secondary education, you never had a chance to learn an accredited trade skill, you don’t even have a legitimate passport, you have no hope and no future and your life expectancy is 40 and its exactly the same for your kids.
Then imagine your wife, your children, your brother, your sister, your nieces and nephews, and all the other people you live with in your building were all brutally murdered in an Israeli air strike. You sacrificed your entire life to provide for them and now they’re all dead.
I’d kill myself. What about you?
Again this still doesn’t justify terrorist Hamas’s brutal murders of civilians.
You aren’t really imagining it, I can tell. That’s okay. Imagining life in a concentration camp is hard.
Try. What would you do?
Hamas needs to stop holding Gazans as prisoners.
Answer the question, coward.
Imagine being so depraved that your response is to go to a concert full of teenagers, kill as many as you possibly can, raping a few, and then bringing back whatever hostages you could fit on your bike. Civilians! Intentionally targeting civilians! Yeah, that’ll make things better.
Imagine believing the atrocity propaganda about Hamas raping children.
Clown. Do you believe they put babies in ovens too? Beheaded 40 children? Come on.
Well, there’s your problem. Source
NOTHING makes it okay to perform the terrorist murders Hamas did.
but is the daily plight of Palestinians Okay?
I stand with Palestinian and Israeli civilians and hope they can find leaders who want a solution after Hamas is eradicated.
And Netanayhu is deposed (which many Israelis support).
Agree. Netanyahu holds a huge responsibility for making Hamas terrorists able to do what they have done. Fuck Netanyahu and his far right government.
First sane comment of yours in this thread.
Well, ideally by the electoral process, but absolutely. I personally think the Olmert proposal would have been fantastic, but Abbas knew that Hamas would never let him get away with it.
You and I can’t imagine what life is like in occupied Palestine. Who am I to judge how oppressed people choose to resist. I don’t have that right, having never been in their shoes.
Nelson Mandela-
If you’re curious and want to understand the conflict better, Vice did a deep dive into the conflict.
Nothing justifies it. But there are plenty of reasons that explain it. Abusing someone doesn’t justify them murdering their abuser, but it sure as hell explains it. When I poke a dog I may not feel that it’s legally justified in biting me, but I’m hardly surprised.