Hamas’ brutal attacks in Israel on October 7 killed at least 1,400 people and the group took more than 200 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. In the wake of the assault, Israel launched an aerial bombardment of Gaza that Palestinian health officials say has killed more than 5,000 people. Israel also announced a “complete siege” on the enclave, withholding vital supplies of water, food and fuel.

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    The news just said that Israel is withholding fuel as Hamas might use it.

    Next will be we’re withholding food as Hamas might eat some.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. What Hamas did was terrible, but Israel has done is no better.

    The fact that for one side in a war collateral damage is acceptable is fucking disgusting and it makes me ashamed to be a human.

    I condemned my own country (UK) when we helped invade Afghanistan and Iraq and murdered civilians.

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      The news just said that Israel is withholding fuel as Hamas might use it.

      They left out the part where Israel is committing ethnic cleansing out in the open.

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            Criticizing Israel is the opposite of being anti semitic. It’s an acceptance that the state does not represent all Jewish people and an acceptance that ethnicity and religion are not a monolith and that these do not exempt a person from being a piece of shit

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      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. What Hamas did was terrible, but Israel has done is no better.

      of course not. this conflict will only end if both (!!) sides stop this shit. Both sides have to accept the other one as humans, as independent states, their different religions, all that stuff. Without that there will be no peace, only more death on both sides.

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        You’re making it sound as if the Israeli government and Hamas have equal power, which is ridiculously wrong. Though officially in charge, Hamas has almost no authority to govern Palestine or otherwise do anything except commit atrocities against civilians.

        Israel has the power to stop the oppression and genocide of Palestinians almost immediately and everything would become much more peaceful in a matter of months, maybe even weeks.

        They won’t do that though, since they’re governed by genocidal fascists emulating apartheid South Africa, some of whom won’t even accept the existence of a Palestinian people.

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          some of whom won’t even accept the existence of a Palestinian people.

          like the Hamas? From their agenda:

          “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

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            Read the articles I posted that explain it. Everyone sane agrees that the terrorism of Hamas is atrocious, but that doesn’t absolve the Israeli oppressors from responsibility for their own actions, especially because they’re by far the ones with the most power to enact change.

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            Nuance is lost in war. Is that part of Hamas charter because of the atrocities Israel has inflicted on them or in spite of it? In case you don’t understand, has Palestinians always wanted to kill Israelites, or is it only after decades of abuse and mistreatment, has one group finally said “fuck it, kill them all.”

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              has Palestinians always wanted to kill Israelites, or is it only after decades of abuse and mistreatment, has one group finally said “fuck it, kill them all.”

              Good question since this area is in a conflict since the establishment of Israel in 1948 and even before that and hatred for Jews was and is pretty common in different countries around the globe. So I dont know maybe everything would be fine if no one had declared war on Israel on Day 2 of their existence and had just accepted the decision made by the U.N.

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        From wikipedia on Hamas charter:

        “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

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          Now do the quotes from Israeli government officials including Netanyahu himself advocating for a one country (final) solution to “the Palestinian problem”, nazi rhetoric intended and appropriate in this context.

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          “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

          they are rabid dogs who need to be put out of their misery. But not on the back of Palestine people. But I agree there is no peace with them in charge.

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            Seems pretty reasonable what they are saying. Israel and the world ignored every UN resolution. Why shouldn’t they take up arms against Israel?