I don’t think you slow something by dumping 10 billion on it imo
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Why do they expect Israel to hold back when they fully back anything they choose to do? It’s not like there will be any consequences, we all know how the realpolitik of this works, most certainly the Israelis. They could nuke Gaza and there wouldn’t be a peep made.
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“He twied so hawd to stawp Iswael’s genocide! Stawp being a meanie to Biden! UwU”
Yeah, this was definitely my bad for posting this and hoping for some discussion about a complex and nuanced topic.
Nuance nonces on their way to defend nazi war criminals.
Sorry, my sarcasm is a coping mechanism for when I’m so fucking angry I want to swallow glass. While you float frictionless in a complex sea of nuance, I have picked a side.
From the river to the sea.
No worries I get it. I’m very angry about the whole situation too. Thanks for your thoughts elsewhere in the thread.
Biden is behind closed doors, off the record saying all the things we want him to. -unamed source
Super high quality article from what I read. I am so stoked to vote for seniel old man again. Seniel old man does all the things I want.
Oddly, I’d trust someone closer to senility more than someone who can’t even spell it.
Oh no I typed a word wrong on my pocket square. I must be stupid. Always a solid assumption. I’m going to stay home on election day just for you.
Outside of the cynical bluster of all your comments in this post, you’ve certainly convinced me of that assumption.
There’s a textbook case of stage IV learning resistance. Only those who take every opportunity to improve their abilities will not fall victim to self-satisfied complacency and expire their potential in the world.
I’m sure I did. I spend a lot of time trying to convince people how smart I am by correcting grammar and spelling on the internet like a snooty cunt. It’s no surprise you think I’m stupid.
Honestly, I’d consider it more likely you need medication and some time offline but hey you do you, friend.
That tone works better when the original comment has some effort and not two lines you never seemed to put much thought into in the first place.
In an article filled with public statements? And multiple public sources? Sure one part talks about an unnamed defense official, but I think that’s an extremely disingenuous appraisal of the article. And it’s hardly a vote Biden ad.
Also, learn to spell senile if you’re going to insult people’s intelligence.
He could stop them whenever he wants by threatening to pull support for Israel.
I absolutely sympathize with this and wish the United States would cut its funding to Israel or at least apply some more explicit conditions. But, do you think this could risk driving them into the orbit of countries that care even less about what they do with their “internal” situation? And while US aid is substantial, it’s only about 16% of their defense budget (well usually, likely more this year). Even if this was all ended overnight I’m not sure it ends Israeli apartheid policy. Unfortunately too with US domestic opinion and the large majority of Americans, democrats included, wanting funding to Israel, cutting them off totally could result in the election of someone who will give them even more with less concern about rights of Palestinians.
I do agree with you thought that cutting or at least conditioning further support would probably be the starting point here.
America dwarfs its rivals. Who is Israel going to turn to? Russia? Unlikely, Russia sides with Bashar Al Assad which makes that impossible. China? Nope, they’re too friendly with Iran.
Israel has no one else.
Now obviously Israel could survive for some time without US support, but not long. Without the US they’ll lose EU/NATO support, and they’ll also lose the buffer that keeps all of their regional rivals from attacking directly. It’s not just financial support that enables their genocide, it’s soft power too.
And as for domestic opinion, time and time again we see that shit doesn’t matter. Americans want healthcare too, that shit isn’t happening.
We don’t have to support genocide or blowing this up into WW3. There are other options.
Those are some good points!
I do worry about the domestic side a lot though, with the elections razor thin it doesn’t take much to tip things to someone even worse on, uh, many things, Israel and Palestine included. And Netanyahu already having a record meddling in US elections.
I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss Israel joining up with Russia and/or China in the future. The Soviet Union was the first country to recognize Israel after independence. Netanyahu and Putin have been fairly chummy too, they describe each other as “personal friends.” Russian is the third most common spoken language in Israel. Israel has also provided cover for Russia at times, like defending Russia (or at least failing to condemn) after it carried out assassinations in the UK.
I don’t think China having links to Iran is really a barrier. I think larger powers frequently court allies that may even be at odds with each other, sometimes on purpose. Or just not really care if they both have advantages. United States relationship with Turkey could be an example here. Or United States, Isreal, and the many countries that haven’t traditionally been very friendly with Israel. But tons of examples really.
Terrible that America is supporting genocide here. I think they should be cutting back or making support conditional (at least until the shoe was on the other foot if in some eventuality the Isrealis became the ones more in danger of genocide). I don’t think American support withdrawal would cause Israel to collapse, but I think a sudden support withdrawal right now would probably be more likely to cause world War 3 than less. Emboldening Iran and others to open war.
Not really any easy answers that I can see. Probably why a lot of this is being dealt with in a clandistine fashion. Hopefully current US leadership can find some route for reigning this in.
Israel, as a settler-colonial regime occupying a majority Arab nation, is fundamentally contradictory to China’s belt-and-road initiative. China got Iran and Saudi Arabia to talk to each other! Israel would make that so much harder. They’d much rather unite the Arab world against Israel tbh - I suppose I could see Russia, but they’re really not that strong of an ally.
Also? America is supporting Israel’s genocide because it’s the same as America’s genocide of its own Native population. You’re seeing America as some kind of good guy being forced into a bad position, but actually, Israel is the 51st State. They’re fundamentally the same.
Israel is building up strong ties with the Arab world outside of Iran. They’ve signed quite a few agreements with other countries in the region. I think Israel would fit in very nicely with the China belt and road initiative. They’d be an appealing ally to Netanyahu too. China certainly would have no complaints about the authoritarian direction he’s been taking Israel in.
I’m not sure I see the link between the Native American genocide and Palestinian one. Not that I don’t see all the many similarities and the obvious facts like they’re both genocides, but what I mean is I don’t think any country is seriously going to be applying any pressure to America over treatment of Native Americans in any way. I don’t see how funding for Israel does anything for the American government in this sense even if that was the case?
I didn’t mean to imply America being the “good guy” here. I think they absolutely should cut off or condition funding in some way. Just wondering how it can be best done to prevent Israel just continuing its apartheid state without US support after funding is withdrawn. But we’ll never find out if the US never tries.
I’ll learn to care about spelling and proof reading in a world where everything I give a fuck about has auto correct when you learn to eat shit. Video evidence is required.
Classic snowflake republican.
Well the first sentence doesn’t really make sense. But here’s a video of Biden saying invading Gaza would be a big mistake.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-joe-biden-2023-60-minutes-transcript/
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Nice debate skills there, buddy. Don’t forget to floss daily!
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My friend, just report the troll and move on.
