• ubermeisters@lemmy.world
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    “Nail head” callout should read “flat end” to match verbiage in the top leftmost callout. This note could actually be removed completely since top left callout already says “flat end” and has a leader pointing at the flat end. If the intent for the verbiage “nail head” is to be preserved, the top left verbiage should be modified from “flat end” to “nail head”. I personally suspect given the poignant use of “pointy end”, that the intent of “nail head” is less authentic that “flat end”.

    Top left callout does not specify which end of the hammer to use, or even to use an end. If there is additional documentation or details regarding method of hammer use. It’s impossible to know without a detail callout to such.

    There’s absolutely zero reference to angle of entry other than the visual depiction, which should never be trusted alone. An indication of perpendicularity would work at the intersection of the nail in the wood, or a classic arc bound angle dimension.

    ‘Remove fingers’ is unnecessarily vague and may even result in loss of fingers should one verbosely follow instruction.

    I’d like to see a table of suggested strikes to completion, with wood/media hardness on one axis, nail length on another axis. Bonus if it’s a 3d graph and there’s depth which acts as a function of nail diameter.

    Also… call me crazy but I don’t think the top surface of the wood looks parallel to the detail title underline, and that’s fucking tragic if true.

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        I’m a CAD detailer, and BIM Coordinator, and a whole bunch of other things, so kinda yeah. I’m responsible for all the CAD related tasks in the company I slave for.

        See also: Engineering Drawing I, II courses

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      There’s also no material control for the entire drawing. If there’s alternative woods permitted, does that affect your nail selection. This drawing seems ripe for a Design Variations Table.

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    until flat end is flush

    Gonna need a tolerance on that. Flush +/- .020" sounds good.

    surface of wood

    Is any wood acceptable? There’s a significant difference between birch and oak.

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    Looks like all the easy definitions have been taken care of by others.

    More GD&T always drives the floor jockeys piping hot mad, so do that to excess. Position at MMC, angularity, flatness of the nail head, give them the beans.

    However, Having also worked with enough plant floor people-

    If you don’t have a separate view showing the fully installed configuration you are wasting your time with all those notes. Nobody gonna read them.

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      *sobbing* I can’t start it until I know what it will look like when I am done.

      -plant floor people probably (idk)

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        You’re… not that far off tbh. They’re not stupid, far from it, and they’re crazy efficient, but they just do not have that refined skill of translating an implied picture into a real one. That takes a lot of practice.

        That’s OK tho. It’s my job to make it as obvious as possible so such problems don’t happen.

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          Just today we had a technician “follow the equipment diagram”. Key word: diagram; implies drawing is diagrammatical, generally speaking. Also theres a large “NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION USE” callout in the title block. Didnt stop the tech from drilling a 7/8" hole right into the side of sensitive equipment. There’s a very obvious gland for waterproof penetration, at the bottom. So, the drawing showed a wire landing at the side of the unit, because it was easier for the layout of the diagram… yeah. I feel it.

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    There’s lots more stuff you could include. For example:

    • indication of which part of the hammer should be used to strike the nail
    • recommended angle of entry for the nail to penetrate the wood
    • recommended angle of impact for the hammer against the head (once correct part of hammer is indicated)
    • scale: how long/thick is the nail? How thick/deep is the piece of wood? Is the illustration to actual scale, or is it a more general representation of the objects?
    • material composition of nail
    • type and density of wood
    • grain direction of wood
    • is the diagram indicating relative positioning, or absolute? For example, does the wood always need to be parallel to the ground, and does the nail always need to be perpendicular to the ground.
    • description of variances with respect to types of nail heads; some may have squared edges, others may be beveled.

    I could keep going, you get the idea.

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    Then the marketing and graphics design team gets it, and it reads “hit nail”.with a graphic that may or may not show to hit the nail on the side of the nail.

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    Remove fingers?

    Sigh, fucking engineer never said Id need boltcutters. Lucky Im smart enough that I came prepared.

    SNIP

    SNIP

    SNIP