Trying to be happy via drugs drives home just how non-arbitrary it is.
Drugs give you variation around a set point. Uppers crash you down. Downers make you tense when they wear off. Only real world work can move that set point around which drugs just make you fluctuate.
Psychedelics can absolutely kick that set-point into another universe if you let them. I can’t begin to explain how it works or how it feels, but I have personally have had some very significant life changes since I started using them on a regular basis.
Sure, you can use psychedelics for fun, but in a proper environment they can be a strong driver for extremely healthy mental change.
Real work is an absolute requirement. No argument there. However, a person may need a complete mental rewiring to get to the point where they are willing to move forward. Like myself.
And they absolutely should be. They are amazingly powerful substances that deserve all the study we can afford to give them.
What I find absolutely fascinating is that their abuse potential is extremely low. After a 50ug dose of psilocybin, the last thing I want to do the next day is do it again. It’s not because it was a bad experience, but it’s just how it works. (Also, lightning fast tolerance. Once you saturate your 5HT2A receptors, it takes a while to recover.)
I hate myself, this world, and most people so much that I want to do psychedelics just to kill that side of me and, hopefully, start feeling like I have some sort of power again. I am about to look into buying the spores and growing my own, but I don’t want a shit ton of extra shrooms. I just want to do one heavy dose, let my inner id die, and live my life again.
I can’t tell you how to trip or what your dosages are going to be. Every person is different and your mind may not be cut out for what you will experience. Taking one mega dose without experience or without a friend around is not recommended unless you already have a firm grip on reality and are an extremely self aware person.
If you need advice, DM me and I can tell you how to get started growing or ask around in /c/shrooms (Edit: added a link to the instance and community in a separate comment)and you will get some good advice. There are easy ways to grow these days without needing equipment for sterilization. This instance is shrooms friendly, so I hang out here. A shoebox size grow will get you a few trips, so don’t worry about having too many.
One dose may work for you or it may not. If you know someone that you can trust fully and they have a super chill vibe, it’s good practice to trip with a partner. Your own mind can be a scary place if left to its own devices and a partner is a good source of reality checks if you get “lost”.
Ego death (or ego dissolution) is a very real thing that you can experience. Your existence seems to stop being about just you and you can develop an almost spiritual connection with everything around you. It’s life changing, but a person should be aware of what is real and what is actually part of the trip. In some cases, reality does mix with what you perceive as “real” and it can be exceedingly complex to filter out what is going on.
Above all else, you need to be in a healthy environment. Environmental context can absolutely determine how your trip is going to be. Psychedelics can amplify what are normally passive feelings and you want to set the tone as best as you can.
I have tried many different dosage levels in many different environments. I have had good experiences and also negative ones. In my case, shrooms helped me perceive the world from a brand new point of view and everything felt new again. I can almost feel how my brain is being rewired and it is very interesting.
I love you and your explanation. My wife has done them a couple of times. I’ve been listening to, “How to change your mind” audiobook, and it makes me really want to experience it. I’m an empath so I fully expect to experience the ego death and I welcome the experience no matter how it goes. I have saved your message and will definitely look into that lemmy group and see about setting up my own temp grow environment.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !shrooms@sh.itjust.works
Amphetamines like that will do more harm than good and it’s not really a stable high as far as drugs go. Plus, testing coke is a pain as you don’t really know what it is cut with.
Yeah, of course. Amphetamines can be used medicinally, but it’s better they be amphetamine salts and are used on a regular schedule. I have been taking Adderall for years, and after so long, it’s a chore to constantly use them. Also, the long term side effects absolutely suck ass. They work, but I would rather not take them any more.
Yeah I’m not really recommending it. I’m just trying to say that guy has the wrong idea and is gonna be pretty shocked when he realizes what ride he’s getting on.
Hence, my the first two sentences of that last paragraph. Real results take real work, no argument there. However, there is always a way to hopefully work smarter, not harder.
You’ve been reading too much self help nonsense and not experiencing enough drugs to make any assertions about how drugs work. You’re so far wrong and oversimplified that I can’t even bother reaching so far down to give you a platform of understanding.
instead of telling someone they’re wrong, tell them why they’re wrong. this whole “x is bad for no reason” rhetoric is why gross drug stigmas exist in the first place so please be better.
Feel free to come up with an accurate description of the complexities of drug interactions to a “haha uppers and downers” person yourself. It’s gonna be like explaining color to a dog.
Trying to be happy via drugs drives home just how non-arbitrary it is.
Drugs give you variation around a set point. Uppers crash you down. Downers make you tense when they wear off. Only real world work can move that set point around which drugs just make you fluctuate.
Psychedelics can absolutely kick that set-point into another universe if you let them. I can’t begin to explain how it works or how it feels, but I have personally have had some very significant life changes since I started using them on a regular basis.
Sure, you can use psychedelics for fun, but in a proper environment they can be a strong driver for extremely healthy mental change.
Real work is an absolute requirement. No argument there. However, a person may need a complete mental rewiring to get to the point where they are willing to move forward. Like myself.
They are being explored for clinical applications like treating depression.
And they absolutely should be. They are amazingly powerful substances that deserve all the study we can afford to give them.
What I find absolutely fascinating is that their abuse potential is extremely low. After a 50ug dose of psilocybin, the last thing I want to do the next day is do it again. It’s not because it was a bad experience, but it’s just how it works. (Also, lightning fast tolerance. Once you saturate your 5HT2A receptors, it takes a while to recover.)
I hate myself, this world, and most people so much that I want to do psychedelics just to kill that side of me and, hopefully, start feeling like I have some sort of power again. I am about to look into buying the spores and growing my own, but I don’t want a shit ton of extra shrooms. I just want to do one heavy dose, let my inner id die, and live my life again.
I totally get that. Really.
I can’t tell you how to trip or what your dosages are going to be. Every person is different and your mind may not be cut out for what you will experience. Taking one mega dose without experience or without a friend around is not recommended unless you already have a firm grip on reality and are an extremely self aware person.
If you need advice, DM me and I can tell you how to get started growing or ask around in /c/shrooms (Edit: added a link to the instance and community in a separate comment)and you will get some good advice. There are easy ways to grow these days without needing equipment for sterilization.
This instance is shrooms friendly, so I hang out here.A shoebox size grow will get you a few trips, so don’t worry about having too many.One dose may work for you or it may not. If you know someone that you can trust fully and they have a super chill vibe, it’s good practice to trip with a partner. Your own mind can be a scary place if left to its own devices and a partner is a good source of reality checks if you get “lost”.
Ego death (or ego dissolution) is a very real thing that you can experience. Your existence seems to stop being about just you and you can develop an almost spiritual connection with everything around you. It’s life changing, but a person should be aware of what is real and what is actually part of the trip. In some cases, reality does mix with what you perceive as “real” and it can be exceedingly complex to filter out what is going on.
Above all else, you need to be in a healthy environment. Environmental context can absolutely determine how your trip is going to be. Psychedelics can amplify what are normally passive feelings and you want to set the tone as best as you can.
I have tried many different dosage levels in many different environments. I have had good experiences and also negative ones. In my case, shrooms helped me perceive the world from a brand new point of view and everything felt new again. I can almost feel how my brain is being rewired and it is very interesting.
I love you and your explanation. My wife has done them a couple of times. I’ve been listening to, “How to change your mind” audiobook, and it makes me really want to experience it. I’m an empath so I fully expect to experience the ego death and I welcome the experience no matter how it goes. I have saved your message and will definitely look into that lemmy group and see about setting up my own temp grow environment.
I appreciate you!
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Do it man! I hope you find a way to engage where you feel like you’re pedaling life not just screaming downhill with no brakes.
Correction: One of the more active shroom communities is here: https://sh.itjust.works/c/shrooms
The one on lemmy.ca is still budding and lemmy.world is not shroom friendly.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !shrooms@sh.itjust.works
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Uhh yeah don’t do that. It’s not like that at all. Maybe try coke, but that’s not gonna last long.
Amphetamines like that will do more harm than good and it’s not really a stable high as far as drugs go. Plus, testing coke is a pain as you don’t really know what it is cut with.
Yeah, of course. Amphetamines can be used medicinally, but it’s better they be amphetamine salts and are used on a regular schedule. I have been taking Adderall for years, and after so long, it’s a chore to constantly use them. Also, the long term side effects absolutely suck ass. They work, but I would rather not take them any more.
Yeah I’m not really recommending it. I’m just trying to say that guy has the wrong idea and is gonna be pretty shocked when he realizes what ride he’s getting on.
Yeah but it doesn’t happen automatically on psychedelics. You’ve still got to do the work, inside the trip.
Hence, my the first two sentences of that last paragraph. Real results take real work, no argument there. However, there is always a way to hopefully work smarter, not harder.
Well put
You’ve been reading too much self help nonsense and not experiencing enough drugs to make any assertions about how drugs work. You’re so far wrong and oversimplified that I can’t even bother reaching so far down to give you a platform of understanding.
instead of telling someone they’re wrong, tell them why they’re wrong. this whole “x is bad for no reason” rhetoric is why gross drug stigmas exist in the first place so please be better.
Feel free to come up with an accurate description of the complexities of drug interactions to a “haha uppers and downers” person yourself. It’s gonna be like explaining color to a dog.
Lol you’re the worst