Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said in a briefing early Wednesday morning that no Israeli strike, either by air, land or sea, occurred near Al-Ahli Arab Hospital at the time of the deadly explosion. He added that drone footage, radar information and a recording of Gaza militants indicate a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket was responsible.
He said the Israeli military would soon publish the radar info, footage and a recording of militants in Gaza assigning blame to Islamic Jihad, a group aligned with Hamas. All the information, Hagari said, would be given to President Biden as part of a “full briefing” when the U.S. leader arrives in Israel Wednesday.
Palestinian Ambassador to the U.N. Riyad Mansour accused Israel of carrying out the strike, calling Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a liar for blaming the strike on the armed group Islamic Jihad. “Now they change the story to try to blame the Palestinians. It is a lie,” Mansour said during a press conference at the U.N. headquarters.
Edit: From the IDF’s official Telegram Channel
IDF: A failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization hit the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City
Attached is a video from the IAF system that captured the area around the hospital before and after the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization: https://bit.ly/3M5oQMI
IDF: Following the briefing by the IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari on the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization that hit the hospital in Gaza City:
Attached is the briefing: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810202362
Attached is a recording of a conversation between Hamas operatives regarding the Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch on the hospital on October 17, 2023: https://bit.ly/3S4xqiG
Attached is a visual analysis following the IAF’s examination on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810156854
Attached is an infographic of all the failed rocket launches in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/1810202309876543672
Attached is a photograph from the IDF launch identification system on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC18102023984
Following the recording that was sent out, attached is a transcript of the conversation between Hamas operatives: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC181020238465
The sound of the munition used in the strike and the size of the explosion is in line with JDAMs used in prior conflicts, not that of a misfired missile: https://x.com/wyattreed13/status/1714338974544625692?s=20
Feel free to compare with the use of other JDAMs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A\_uwzugvv-g
Palestine has recorded MANPADS capability and has demonstrated that capability in the past. IMO the “failed missile” shown looks a lot like a MANPADS in normal operation (primary phase, secondary acceleration phase, detonation phase).
I’ve seen this rumor spreading, but JDAMs are the guidance system and not one specific type of bomb with specific explosion sound. This isn’t the proof you think it is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Direct_Attack_Munition
Sound is usually caused by the various control surfaces… Which is what the JDAM introduces.
Here’s evidence of an Israeli jet launching flares in a trajectory intersecting with the hospital: https://streamable.com/hchxwx
It’s also evidence that Hamas rockets weren’t even close.
You have a source for the sound claim? Weapons experts seem to disagree with that.
Also, do you have the original source for that steamable link? A random video is pretty hard to verify one way or the other. Context from the original source would be very appreciated.
Twitter “weapons experts” don’t know shit. Basically, if you dropped a big ass ball from the sky, it wouldn’t make much sound at all. Bombs are either equipped explicitly to make sound (as in German bombs circa WW2) or it’s implicit because of control surfaces distorting the air. This only happens at a high enough speed and the pitch and tone of the whistle depends on the control surfaces.
It’s like second year physics lol. The whole point of the JDAM is to add control surfaces to a bomb, so obviously it’s not going to sound like a dumb bomb.
I’m not talking about twitter “weapons experts.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061
“So far the findings are inconclusive. BBC Verify has shown the evidence to a number of weapons experts, some of whom say it is not consistent with what you would expect from a typical Israeli airstrike.
J Andres Gannon, an assistant professor at Vanderbilt University, in the US, says the explosion appears to be small, meaning that the heat generated from the impact may have been caused by leftover rocket fuel rather than an explosion from a warhead.
Justin Bronk, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (Rusi) in the UK, agrees. While it is difficult to be sure at such an early stage, he says, the evidence looks like the explosion was caused by a failed rocket section hitting the car park and causing a fuel and propellant fire.
Mr Gannon says it is not possible to determine from the footage whether the projectile struck its intended target.
Several experts we spoke to were not willing to put forward a view on what happened.”
Explain the casualty count then? The casualty count has been verified by MSF doctors on the ground in Gaza.
Firstly, I’ve not seen anyone from MSF verify that claim. If you have a source, I’d love to see it.
Secondly, it has been reported that the hospital courtyard was densely packed with roughly 600 people. Unspent fuel from a rocket can add a lot to the overall explosive potential.