Conservatives are so fucking cowardly, they’re afraid of children now? When will that entire party be officially considered a hate group? Because i think now would be a good time.
(Continuing:)
“So you care about people with jobs?”
Conservatives: Hah! Unions shouldn’t be legal, workers are lucky to get paid. We should eliminate minimum wage, let the free market decide what you’re worth, if anything.
“You support the free market… So you don’t mind my selling pride accessories and clothing?”
Conservatives: Pride is pornographic, and endangers children. We need to restore morality and decency in society, keep children safe!
“In that case, you surely condemn child trafficking, abuse and pedophilia?”
Conservatives: hey it’s fine for adult men to have relationships with teenage girls, that’s when they’re most fertile! Plus the Bible has no problems with it.
“The Bible also says to love your neighbor, turn the other cheek.”
Conservatives: That’s weak minded effeminate liberal nonsense, we should rule with iron fists and show no mercy.
“Are you saying you do know how to rule?”
Conservatives: lol we can’t even decide who to elect as our leader, much less govern effectively. Honestly we’re just here for the grift and free healthcare.
“…”
“Are you saying you do know how to rule?”
More like:
Conservatives: Don’t tread on me! Government is expensive, i don’t want to pay taxes! The government should stay out of my life!
Then continue into the mob justice rants and pigeonhole them into describing how they would rather have a fascist dictator than anything else.
Spot on!
Ron DeSantis is currently afraid of a 15 year old who asks him questions. His security detail treats the kid like a security threat
Currently…several months ago
Oh ok did you guys hear that? He did it several months ago, so no reason to let it reflect on his character! Never mind then!
I’m sure he’s changed a lot since then lol
They are afraid of everything that’s doesn’t fit into their little religious bubble. Years of brainwashing with 24/7 “news” cycles telling them what to be afraid of (anything but them).
The people that make that “news” need to be tried in The Hague.
“now”? Remember that weatherman who threatened to shoot a young girl because she dared to ring his doorbell in 2023?
“A child just rang my doorbell. Folks you do NOT ring doorbells in 2023. My 6 was loaded. Keep your kids away”
https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/texas-weatherman-slammed-after-warning-kids-from-ringing-doorbells/
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Wtf? You people are insane
You make a solid arguments defending your point.
Oops, wrong user
I’m not the guy who tried to claim an insane murderer is somehow representative of an entire political party.
Neither am I ;]
A 6 year old was stabbed 26 times.
#26 TIMES!!!
I have a nephew around that age. He fell off his bike 2 weeks ago and cried his eyes out because he scraped his knee on the road.
The fact that the coward is so old too. He lived a full life. Whether he lives or does in prison is irrelevant. No matter what his punishment is, it’s unjustified.
26 times man. The poor mom. Fuck, imagine escaping the hell in Palestine, thinking you’ve finally made it and can actually make a life in the US, and this is what you get. Life is so incredibly unfair for some. That’s what conservatives don’t understand. They simply cannot fathom any scenario that doesn’t affect them personally.
“28 stab wounds!”
The boy was stabbed 26 times and succumbed to his injuries, the sheriff’s office said.
The 32-year-old woman, who had more than a dozen stab wounds, is recovering at the hospital and is expected to survive, the office said.
What kind of sick piece of shit has the capability to stab a 6 year old once much less 26 times?
Extremists who have fallen for the dehumanization of Muslims. It’s just another example of why all the dehumanization and pro-genocide rhetoric coming out of Israel’s government and social media is so dangerous.
Also American Christian Zionism. Israel can only get away with it the way they do because the genocide had forgien backing
Shot, even the Israelis are more critical of their government compared to the average American Zionist.
A MAGA piece of shit. They’re terrified of everything now.
What the fuck is it with all these comments taking the horrific news of a 6 year old being stabbed 26 times in a hate crime… and they respond with some witty “gotcha” comments against the other side? Like am I crazy? Did anyone else get that vibe?
Anyway so…
On Saturday, Israel’s military
Ah. Just when I was wondering why they even bothered to write and publish this tragedy that so often gets ignored … yes that’s right! That shit is trending!
I think I fucking hate the internet now.
I’m sure a good portion of them are from the Hexbear community that many have defederated from. I’m glad for defederation because I don’t have to see their toxic, disrespectful comments. People who want to leave defederation up to individuals must not be familiar with the Paradox of Tolerance.
Here’s the problem I have with the whole wack-ass federation system:
Those Hexbear trolls could just make accounts on other instances and keep messing with people without consequences.
Most major Lemmy instances aren’t heavily moderated and the ones that are are only modded to serve the emotional whims of the mods and admins, and not for the benefit of the users.
The whole-ass structure still has a hierarchy and therefore is still problematic.
Except other instances don’t allow hate speech and behavior like Hexbear admins do. Their whole instance is dedicated to trolling and spreading hate and disinformation. So they really can’t just go anywhere and act like they do.
That’s not gonna stop them. They can arbitrarily make as many accounts as they need to do it, and just bounce from account to account one comment at a time if necessary.
Most people have at least a few alts on other instances simply by virtue of instance shopping. Meaning most people already can evade bans.
It’s just a bad, broken system.
A bad and broken system isn’t an excuse for doing nothing about a problem.
Defederation is the best option available.
Much better than requiring individuals to block toxic instances.
I agree with you. I am merely pointing out the facts of the matter, that’s all.
People who don’t have skin in the game often like to point out the facts, or play devil’s advocate.
That’s not gonna stop them. They can arbitrarily make as many accounts as they need to do it, and just bounce from account to account one comment at a time if necessary.
There’s a finite number of servers though that they can create accounts on.
The admins of those servers would notice someone spamming account creations just to make comments and bypass bans.
What you’re describing is not a federation issue, it’s a server admin issue.
Yep, the same thing happened on Reddit. Account banned? Make a new one.
If they have that much spare time then let them. They can rule over lemmy and the rest of us get to enjoy the actual world while they’re tied up screaming at their keyboards.
I usually agree with this sentiment, but I honestly think Hexbear users have had better takes than the other average user on this. It’s generally not the hexbear users I see trying to justify violence in this case. Mostly they’re against it. I have plenty of issues with hexbear, but at least be accurate with criticism.
Then join their server so sane people can be spared from you both
Lol. Just because I defend them once after critiquing them dozens of times probably, you tell me to go there. You’re as bad as they are.
My instance isn’t defederated from them though so I’d have no reason to. I wouldn’t care if it were defederated really because generally they’re annoying assholes. I guess you guys have that in common.
I switched servers to see less of them
Nice try. Back to Hexbear with you.
Check my comment history. I’ve had many arguments with them. I’m not from hexbear, but in this one situation they have been mostly better than the average Lemmy user from what I’ve seen. They’re almost all anti-violence in this situation in my experience, though some are more violently anti-Zionist which is pretty fair considering how many die because the Zionists can do it without consequences.
They’re not anti violence. They’re anti self defense by groups they don’t care about.
They call for nuking western whites (that is genocide). Don’t defend those hypocritical twats, they just want to kill anyone who disagrees.
Welcome to the wonderful world of bilateral genocide.
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I mean, it mentions that the parents were from the West Bank.
“Wadea’s mother and father had moved to the United States 12 and nine years ago, respectively, and their son was born here, Rehab added. They were from a village in the West Bank, he said.”
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It’s all part of the oligarchies MSM apparatus, and their attempts to manufacture consent for Israel’s imminent actions in Gaza. The EXACT same thing happened after 9/11. It was painfully obvious then, too. Nothing’s changed — the majority of humanity are still asleep on their feet.
They can’t drum up sympathy for Palestinian refugees at home, when at the same time they’re trying to neutralize empathy for Palestinian refugees in Gaza.
Also why most articles highlight how ruthless and inhumane Hamas is for kill children, while continuously ignoring or downplaying Israel killing 10x as many Palestinian children.
You miss this in the article?
The family is Palestinian and “came to America seeking what we all…
Everything about this is just so fucking horrible. The kid just celebrated a birthday, I’ve got toddlers around the same age, I can’t even imagine what kind of person could do that to another person, let alone a kid that young. The attacker is a 71 year old man, so basically he’s dying in prison now, probably deluded by some BS propaganda on Fox News or Newsmax or whatever the fuck.
All I want for Christmas is for those that own and profit off of right wing propaganda networks to get what they deserve.
(Insert the most grotesque form of torture you can imagine here)
That would be a nice start.
Fuck crime, fuck immigration, fuck the national debt, the biggest problem facing America is the unfettered spread of completely untrue propaganda as “fact” by “legitimate” news sources that has seemingly 2 purposes: keep Republicans in power, and make conservatives hate/angry at their fellow citizens.
“We are all domestic terrorists.” - Republicans.
Trumps fault
Okay I’m ignorant on this one… can someone tell me how? Idk how to begin to Google this and I’m genuinely asking.
Trump’s campaign and political rhetoric has escalated violence against minorities in general- and in particular Muslim and hispanic people; who he used as scapegoats.
His rhetoric has normalized the concept of political violence emboldening the the far-right to act in exactly this manner.
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And now he’s in nazi-courting mode again, so he’s dropped all the pro-Israel talking points for the time being. As if we needed more evidence that orange man has literally zero principles.
This is pretty much all you need.
https://presswatchers.org/2022/08/the-phrase-youre-looking-for-is-stochastic-terrorism/
Thank you! I’m sorry I didn’t know how to explain this. I didnt mean how but what context did trump contribute to these particular in and out groups. What you explained is this biggest reason I hate him and why I’m so scared of him.
I really appreciate it and I didn’t know there was a term for what I felt about him!
Speech is free, but should still have consequences. This country has been very openly hostile to people of all darker colors. I was so deluded growing up thinking of the melting pot. But all that are lies.
I was so deluded growing up thinking of the melting pot.
Me too! I made it to my twenties thinking racism and bigotry were solved problems except a few corner cases. It gave me blinders that I don’t think I fully shook off until I was in my late forties.
Conservatives are terrorists. Let’s call a spade a spade.
As an aside, there’s several stories of conservative Qanon parents killing their kids too. CPS should remove children from their parents if they are conservatives homeschooling and not vaccinating.
They’re proud of that fact.
My god.
This should never be forgotten. They played it for laughs. Claimed the sign was in “Protest”.
But they said it, they laughed about it, and then they tried to sweep it under the rug.
What the fuck
Jeezes. RIP kid. The right has let these people think this is right.
That’s enough Lemmy for today.
Why are so many comments raging against conservatives? Not just in this post but in others too. The article doesn’t mention political allegiance. Where does politics come into it?
Edit: lol, a few downvotes but no answers. Come on, enlighten me. I’m not American, and I feel out the loop.
Generally speaking its usually conservatives who freak the fuck out about muslims. Especially since its an older guy who was probably being fed conservative propaganda via talk radio and fox news. They have a noted history of dehumanizing anyone who well I cant give a good example other than saying those they “other” pretty hard to give a non broad definition when the old rule of thumb of them going after non WASPs is becoming less of a rule itself.
Also generally speaking when crimes like this happen with more liberal or left leaning folks its completely scattershot on who they target. Or its against a known factor who they had a grudge against.
Mind you I aint saying if this guy was conservative or not who knows maybe he’s devolopt fucking Dementia and got taken back to the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and promptly had a fucking mental break.
Wtf is hate crime? This is murder, not a posting on Xitter.
EDIT: Got it. Just in my country murder based on “political, ideological, racial or religious hate or enmity to some group” counts as worse murder, not as two separate crimes.
I’ll save you some time and give you the definition by merriam webster:
any of various crimes (such as assault or defacement of property) when motivated by hostility to the victim as a member of a group (such as one based on color, creed, gender, or sexual orientation)
It’s murder (a crime) with racism as the main motivator.
Hate crime (not hate speech) is an aggravating circumstance to a given crime (in this case, murder) that in many places carries a harsher sentence.
That this is a murder is obvious. That this may be part of some “retaliation” against Muslims is what makes this world news (though not in the Reddit/Lemmy sense).
Ah.
A hate crime is a crime that specifically targets a member of a protected class due to their membership in a protected class. It warrants additional punishment since it may make members of the protected class more hesitant to participate in civil society (for example, after hearing about this murder, a Muslim parent might be afraid to let their child go to a friend’s house).
