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    • pascal@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      What you say it’s not wrong, but you completely ignored the unilateral expansion thing. There’s no free territory, for Israel to expand, someone else has to leave.

      If the United States starts expanding into Canada, there would be international outrage.

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      1 year ago

      Israeli settlers need to give back the land they stole.

      Imagine what a court in your country would decide in this case:

      A man breaks into a house, kills some of the residents, and locks the rest in the basement. He then lives there and raises a family in this house. Decades later, his children still live there, and there are still prisoners in the basement, and they are routinely abused. The children obviously know all this.

      • Would the court expel the children from the house and give it back to the original owners or their descendants?
      • Would the court find the children guilty of crimes?
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        1 year ago

        the land they stole.

        Do you consider that all of Israel?

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          Yes. You can make an argument that some of the land was legally purchased, but even at the time, this was part of a plan of colonization and ethnic cleansing, so it’s essentially property owned by a criminal enterprise or its members. Palestinians also deserve restitution for decades of oppression. So IMHO all property owned by Israel, any Zionist institution, or any Israeli found guilty of taking part in the oppression may be seized.

          • library_napper@monyet.cc
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            1 year ago

            The vote to create Israel included many countries, but they didn’t let the Palestinians vote. Curuoislu both Inida and Pakistan (who had recently gotten independence from Britain and had a similar psrtiton happen to them) both voted against it.

            I dont think an argument that it was legal could be made if they didn’t bother letting the people who were living there vote on it.