They don’t care even if you prove this. Liberalism is a religion yet the people that aren’t part of it (the downtrodden of the world) have to pay tithes to it against their will. Why would they change their mind?
Idk I’ve gotten lucky before and actually changed a few minds when I showed them this. Obv they’re still libs but they at least recognize this important historical fact. The main point that made them agree with the USSR on that point was the fact that the USSR tried signing a pact with Western Europe against the Nazis first and Western Europe denied them. That actually surprised my friends and they looked into it further and found it was true. I do try to keep in mind tho that very few people are actually willing to listen or research anything that doesn’t allign with the current narrative but every once in a while u can be lucky
This can be subjective. The people that I have been able to convince of this weren’t liberals to begin with so I got lucky there. The ardent liberals, I can show them articles like the following and they just ignore it and bring up something else and I am just chasing one liberal argument after another until I reach the conclusion that it’s not good faith.
I agree with that, many liberals will deliberately ignore a good argument because it doesn’t fit their mental canon. My brother for example still thinks Russia of all people(lmfaoooo) bombed the Nord Stream and no amount of Ben Norton or Jeffrey Sachs will tell him otherwise.
They don’t care even if you prove this. Liberalism is a religion yet the people that aren’t part of it (the downtrodden of the world) have to pay tithes to it against their will. Why would they change their mind?
Idk I’ve gotten lucky before and actually changed a few minds when I showed them this. Obv they’re still libs but they at least recognize this important historical fact. The main point that made them agree with the USSR on that point was the fact that the USSR tried signing a pact with Western Europe against the Nazis first and Western Europe denied them. That actually surprised my friends and they looked into it further and found it was true. I do try to keep in mind tho that very few people are actually willing to listen or research anything that doesn’t allign with the current narrative but every once in a while u can be lucky
This can be subjective. The people that I have been able to convince of this weren’t liberals to begin with so I got lucky there. The ardent liberals, I can show them articles like the following and they just ignore it and bring up something else and I am just chasing one liberal argument after another until I reach the conclusion that it’s not good faith.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html
I agree with that, many liberals will deliberately ignore a good argument because it doesn’t fit their mental canon. My brother for example still thinks Russia of all people(lmfaoooo) bombed the Nord Stream and no amount of Ben Norton or Jeffrey Sachs will tell him otherwise.