Am I reaching for this?
German
Imperius (roman, reich)
Sonnenrads
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Overwatch is a reactionary organization so it fits
But how can Overwatch be bad when Overwatch good?
It’s funny that Omnics actually bad.
The newest tank character is an omnic revolutionary that became disillusioned with the peaceful ‘solutions’ imposed by the existing omnic leadership and monks. I love him and I hope the writers do a good job with him. (But i know they’ll do something like have him kill a little girl so that you know he’s actually evil and wrong)
But wasn’t he working with Talon? As far as I know Talon are actual terrorists, right?
No he’s the leader of a third faction, Null Sector. As far as I know, he outright refused to work with Talon.
Ahh my fault then. I am not really up to date with my Overwatch lore.
No worries! I’m just a nerd about overwatch.
i am no longer giving anyone the benefit of the doubt on this shit. No one accidentally makes a five armed swastika in 2023
This is literally a German character, there are no two possible opinions on why someone would possibly be putting a sonnenrad on him
But a previous Blizzard treat may have had a five armed swastika therefore according to the Thermian argument it can’t come from anywhere else and the fiction carries all the weight of its context.
Not relating to Rome, it is based ok the Diablo Archangel Imperius who is a villain who wants to wipe out humanity. He also has the same little suns.
So I think you’re reaching a bit. Imperius is unambiguously a villain in the same way Diablo or Mephisto is, for reference.
He also has the same little suns.
His suns aren’t the same. His suns are like normal suns. The Overwatch version has made it like a Sonnenrad.
Looking at this pic from the wiki, the style of the suns - and number of arms they have - changes from art to art.
Edit: looking closer, the skin seems to have directly swapped the arms for the legs someone upthread posted. Were they trying to make it less nazi-like and failed terribly?
Personally the symbol reminds me more of this kind of thing:
I don’t think there was really any intention behind the symbol other than “it looks kinda cool”.
Isle of Man (with too many legs)
Critical support for omnics destroying the western hegemony
Omnics rose up and the liberal heroes of NATO saved the world by military intervention and the power of “both sides”
Like, the robots disregarding their human-like lifestyle (as a metaphor for western hegemony) is painted as an evil thing. In the universe of Overwatch humanity is the imperial core.
God that is such a busy design. And so little of it relates to Rome. He looks like a tokutsatsu mech.
Man I loved Overwatch when it came out. It’s a shame that Blizzard messed up with balance and that the community pretend that DPS is the only role in game and playing anything else is a waste of time.
But I will not touch the micro transaction hell that is OW2 with a ten foot pole. It is a shame really.
They totally ended OW1 because of the big Epic Blizzard Storytelling to come in OW2
I logged in for the first time in a few months and saw they had story missions up. Oh boy, my favorite part of this game! … is locked behind a paywall?
With any luck the microsoft acquisition that has now been fully approved will result in changes. Like Kotick fucking off for one. And hopefully they audit and assess team and organisationally changes that are necessary.
It’s fucking weird being a communist and being pleased that a company is merging into a giant monopoly but things were just that bad at actiblizz that microsoft might be an improvement.
We will see but I think it is too late for OW2
2 could be saved by one thing and one thing only, Jeff returning to it under secrecy and having the announcement of his return coincide with a major update that brings back 6v6 as well as adding a bunch of new stuff.
Otherwise they’ll need a 3, and the new model will have to be significantly more generous.
Absolutely not. Jeff was the reason the devs bit off more they could chew.
I mean the Sonnenrad was designed after a real pagan symbol and the Sun cross/wheel is not necessarily a nazi symbol. Although the black sun is.
Theoretically, yes. However, in practice it’s kind of a “the Swastika is a Buddhist symbol” kind of argument.
The Sonnenrad is a bit different IMO. It’s definitely a distinct symbol of its own, even if based on pagan symbols. The swastika was pretty much coopted as-is.
In a way that’s kind of worse. Hundreds of millions of Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, etc have their holy symbol coopted wholesale by Nazis to the extent where clueless Westerners still show up in Asia and ask why there’s so many swastikas around.
Why, out of all characters, would you give a GERMAN character that outfit and why, out of all the ways to implement it, would you choose to make the sun look MORE swastika like?
I dunno it doesn’t really look that sus to me tbh. It looks like just generic “cool buff knight in armor dude” design to me. It’s like those “tribal” tattoos to me, it doesn’t mean anything it’s just there as an accessory.
I guess it’s possible the person that made that particular piece of content is secretely fash and it’s actually a dogwhistle but I don’t see it really. These kinds of motifs aren’t really that uncommon.
Those little suns aren’t too bad.
Reinhardt is bad because he’s GERMAN
It’s way more sus that the futuristic German military had elite soldiers that were monarchists and cosplayed as knights.
Imperius is an angel from Diablo so it’s not a direct allusion to Rome.
Sonnerad? You mean Freedom Circles!
