So, no warning, indiscriminate attacks that will,purposely harm civilians? This is awful. Hamas have already said they will execute hostages if there are unwarned attacks, so we can expect this to escalate on both sides.
Sadly, yes. Israel is probably getting ready for an ethnic cleansing of the Gaza strip. As per the hostages, it seems like Israel has deemed them as dead already.
From the linked article, emphasis mine:
In certain circumstances, [roof knocking] will be used, the source says, but today Israel is already evacuating masses of the Gaza populace from central terrorist areas and attacking there.
There are also reports of people being ordered to leave their homes and head to the cbd, which is then bombed. It’s a warzone, though, so I’m sure we won’t get fully accurate information.
Evacuating them where?
To centralized locations where they can accidentally miss and take them all out all together.
maybe hamas shouldn’t have killed hundreds of civilians purely to provoke a response? maybe the Palestinians should leave now? maybe they shouldn’t vote a dead cult like Hamas in as their government?
they literally can’t leave, and haven’t had an election since 2006
so hamas is a terroist dictatorship. who broke into their neighboors place, slaughtered hundreds of innocents for no reason at all, kidnapped dozens more and threaten to kill them, and these are the guys you think are awesome
least bloodthirsty lemming
and these are the guys you think are awesome
what? I never said that. fuck hamas and fuck you for suggesting I’d like them
This person seems to think that criticism of Israel makes us Hamas-lovers. Not sure where this shit is coming from.
I’ve seen this rhetoric before here and I don’t understand the goal. Berating everyone who isn’t sucking Bibi’s dick and calling them terrorist lovers isn’t going to create any good will towards Israel, quite the opposite.
I said this in another thread and I will say it again here:
I always find it odd how people blame “extremists” and the Palestinians for this.
Israel starts to steal homes, land and killing men, children and women. No one bat an eye to that.
Then extremists and hate towards Israel came and bam, they are the bad ones suddenly.
Certainly what Hamas does is entirely wrong however - People cannot expect them be silent and get killed by Israeli forces.
This is what happens from decades upon decades of oppression.
This entire conflict was created by Israel stealing land and starting a genocide mission on Palestinians.
they are the bad ones suddenly.
In my eyes, yes. I was absolutely a ‘both sides are as bad as each other’ person 3 days ago. Now Its obvious one side is objectively worse and crossed a line that cant be walked back without serious blood and retribution
Hypocrisy at its finest.
EDIT: so basically you are saying, you are fine with Israel killing millions upon millions of Palestinian people but when it Hamas is doing the exact same thing that’s wrong.
EDIT 2: how can you be “be for both sides”? One side is committing genocide and the other is fighting for their right to live. Hamas was literally created around 1987s to fight back for Palestinians lives.
When peaceful revolution is impossible, violence revolution is inevitable.
least bloodthirsty tankie
What do you mean by that?
run it through google translate if its too hard for you
Yes, Hamas should absolutely not have killed a single Israeli civilian or any civilian period. But none of your maybes justify more killing of civilians in Gaza.
Even if people in Gaza, who are constantly all their lives between a rock and a hard place with no clean water and no future prospects, voted for Hamas, still it does not justify Israel killing civilians.
I never said it ‘justifies’ it. Unless the civilians clear out, it is unfortunately inevitable. The difference is israelies arent going to be using their forces specifically to target civilians, unlike the other lot of animals
And go where exactly?
who cares where. away. theres an open border. stop pretending they have no choice
Stop pretending you have the first clue about what you’re talking about and educate yourself. Thanks.
great retort genius
If only there had been a way for Hamas to not start this escalation…
Like if they weren’t denied basic rights and locked up in a ghetto for decades to be indiscriminately murdered by Israel as they colonise Palestine?
If only…
How come neither Jordan nor Egypt will accept them? Why does Egypt have a checkpoint?
Sorry what does that mean? Nearly half of the Jordanian population are ethnically Palestinian.
I have seen this argument before. Could you explain what you mean by “them” and what you mean by Jordan not accepting them?
As in, the country of Jordan does not let them in because they can’t handle a sudden influx of 2 million people?
Think I’ve also answered the question as to how this would likely go, though.
Jordan has opened its borders to Iraqi, Palestinians, Syrians, etc. They have a general policy of taking in refugees. I don’t think Jordan does a good job treating those refugees well, but it’s almost a diplomatic certainty that Jordan would let them in.
So what exactly are you basing your opinion on?
And why is ethnic cleansing your solution here?
Sorry I don’t see where I said anything about ethnic cleansing but go off bud
What do you think removing peoples from their land is?
Your solution is for them to leave their homeland before they’re killed. That’s ethnic cleansing by result.
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Being forced to go somewhere isn’t ethnic cleansing. Killing people is. You’ve got the wrong definition of ethic cleansing.
two wrongs don’t make one right
How does that saying apply here?
Aren’t you defending the Israelian Armys indiscriminate Attacks or did i misinterpret that?
How do you know they’re “indiscriminate“? Isn’t that a spin in itself that proves you’re not neutral? (Hint: it is)
I am very much neutral.
Go through my Comment History and you’ll see how much i hate both sides
Actually, i’ll save you the work. Here: https://lemmy.world/comment/4367347
But to answer your questions: Israel itself has announced it.
Cutting off Food and Energy from the entirety of Gaza doesn’t seem very targeted to me, does it?
If anything, you are biased. You are hellbent on making the Israelis look like the good guys here, unwilling to admit that sometimes there is no good guy and both sides are absolute shit
If you move the goal posts, you’re not neutral. People are taking Hamas’ side IN THIS INCIDENT, but Israel wouldn’t have done anything what they’re doing since two days if Hamas hadn’t attacked the day before.
If people deny that fact and start to point to past events or the overall situation, they aren’t serious people and can simply be ignored.
Hamas attacked first.
