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      What if I told you that Israel was part of a Nazi experiment to solve the problem of “stateless Jews,”

      I wouldn’t believe you, because the current state of Israel was created after the Nazi regime was ended.

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      Is nazi the only word you have for a authoritarian and militant group? I have no love for Israel, but I have less love for your limited vocab. As a immigrant who learned English in his 20s, I know that two groups can both be bad without being the same group.

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        “lets have some nuance here” “You just call everyone you disagree with a nazi” “as a” “both sides are bad” “authoritarian” … BINGO!!

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          Yes, if you discuss complex things with the depth of understanding of a six year old, call everything evil a Nazi, and don’t understand that the world is not made up of pure , good people and Nazis, I bet you get to fill out a lot of imaginary bingo cards , since those get to work by your made up rules. The real world does not.

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            Man I quit reddit because of shit comments like this.

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        A Nazi is just an end stage authoritarian, once the malignancy has become terminal. There are other words, but only dishonest people care to make the distinction.

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          No. Nazi means national German socialism workers party, which was a german political party that did some notable things, like starting WW2, the Holocaust. You may want to look them up, the history is interesting.

          Two things being similar does not mean they are the same thing. Is every end stage cancer pancreatic cancer to you? Is every war just the great war to you ( I know you have not heard of WW2 yet).

          If you cannot understand that nazi actually is a word with meaning, and not just something you say when you think a group is authoritarian or evil, than you have absolutely no room in you brain for the slightest glimmer of nuance or basic comprehension of anything.

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            Given that fascism inherently utilizes pretense and labels to control the framing of every argument, I counter with the assertion that, “a Nazi is, as a Nazi does.” If an individual deifies the authority of the government and worships its power by oppressing other individuals, that person is a Nazi. That goes for every cop that enforces unjust laws, every politician that executes a prisoner, every political party that goes to war, and every corporation that justifies profit at the expense of the wellbeing of a laborer. You’re free to disagree, but you’re just helping Nazis hide behind whatever logo they’re currently wearing.

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          What? Why are you so overwhelmingly confident in your statements? Why are you so quick to dismiss anyone who has even the slightest disagreement to your quite aggressive and absolutist opinions?

          Also it’s unclear to me why Nazis are the “end stage”. They were definitely evil and neo Nazis today are definitely fucked in the head but you have not given a causal reason for why or how all authoritarian movements become Nazis.

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            Given that fascism inherently utilizes pretense and labels to control the framing of every argument, I counter with the assertion that, “a Nazi is, as a Nazi does.” If an individual deifies the authority of the government and worships its power by oppressing other individuals, that person is a Nazi. That goes for every cop that enforces unjust laws, every politician that executes a prisoner, every political party that goes to war, and every corporation that justifies profit at the expense of the wellbeing of a laborer. You’re free to disagree, but you’re just helping Nazis hide behind whatever logo they’re currently wearing.

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      The fact that this has 57 downvotes is proof that this instance is a nazi bar and the mods need to clean house or get defederated.

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        Those are communist ramblings (obviously a nazi wouldn’t attribute nazism to something bad). Unless you argue that it’s a troll account to highlight the insanity of communist relativity.

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          The fact that most of you folks think communism is a bad thing is exactly the reason why the mods need to clean house or get defederated.

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            Yeah ok whatever pal. Argue that others opinions should be suppressed all you want but people won’t give a damn.

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            Communism is responsible for far more deaths than Nazism. The fact that most of those deaths were unintentional is the only real redeeming factor that makes me consider Nazi ideology to be worse.