• davelA
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    1 year ago

    We’re not making excuses for him.

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      1 year ago

      You’re both framing his invasion of Ukraine as a struggle against NATO expansion, which is the same excuse he gives for his “special military operation”

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        1 year ago

        It was framed that way for decades by people on the left and also by centrists like Jeffery Sachs and by right-wing, realpolitik ghouls like Henry Kissinger and John Mearsheimer.

        And Ukraine really does have a Nazi problem, which American media used to cover before Russia’s invasion, and then after the invasion it suddenly was considered Russian disinformation.