Esperanto let’s go
Isn’t Esperanto extremely Eurocentric though?
Idk I thought it was an internationalist socialist idea, could be wrong
We do need to move away from english though and chances are we’re all gonna learn mandarin soon enough anyway
chances are we’re all gonna learn mandarin soon enough anyway
Those damn commies can’t force me to speak Mandarin if I’m too stupid to learn it.
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Isn’t Mandarin hard even for people who is their first language?
Yeah probably. Apparently china uses Esperanto anyway so maybe that’s the middle ground.
We’ll be economically incentivised to learn mandarin as china continues to play a stronger role in international trade/diplomacy tbh, those that study the language may get a leg up but the rest of us will absorb it to some degree or another as it absorbs us.
death to america, death to english et al
No, all languages are equally difficult to learn for a native speaker growing up immersed in one. All natural languages are equally complex, but in different ways. English is most complex phonologically, meaning it has a large group out sounds and many ways they can fit together. It’s simple morphologically, meaning words don’t change very much in different situations. Think about the way Spanish verbs are different depending on the person/group/thing doing the action; English verbs barely change. Similar situation for nouns; Spanish nouns follow a gender system that affects other words near them, which English does not. Comparatively, Chinese has extremely simple grammar - there’s no gender, number, tense, or conjugation. But it has a complex tone system where the exact pronunciation of a word can completely change its meaning. You can look at any language and see what’s simple and what’s complex.
The difficulty of learning a language later in life is determined entirely by how similar it is to one’s own language. So European languages are relatively easy to learn for speakers of other European languages (generally) and Chinese languages are relatively easy to learn for speakers of other Chinese languages (generally). For an English speaker (for example) the easiest languages to learn are Spanish and Norwegian/Danish/Swedish; they have simpler phonology than English and similar vocabulary and grammar. The most difficult are Japanese and some Native American languages, which are extremely grammatically different from English.
Yes we should all communicate with each other in RISC-V assembly.
English is also the international language for computer science. So it’s mega entrenched in other ways besides international relations.
how is english an official international language? there’s no global law dictating this, it’s just a consequence of the British empire.
Rules 👏 Based 👏 International 👏 Order 👏
I will not learn Toki Pona you can’t make me
Klingon is the only answer
Why?
It’s just a means of communication. I admit that English is frustratingly difficult and nonsensical at times.
But what do you propose it is changed to and why?
It is the language of the colonial empire and of white supremacy.
We should change it to a new language created from mixing all languages in the world, and not just Euro languages.
We should change it to a new language created from mixing all languages in the world, and not just Euro languages.
there’s no way to make this happen, it would have to happen naturally somehow. but it’s not gonna happen, it would require too much thought and global cooperation. also, english already mixes a bunch of languages together.
Yeah, it only mixes Euro languages
Not entirely, there’s plenty of English and Spanish used by Filipinos and English used by Indians
Empires also made use of boats, hammers, and electricity. Imperialism has been conducted in French, Spanish, Japanese, and many other languages. Many strikes and other labor mobilizations have been organized in English. Replacing English as an international standard (though it’s an unofficial one) is extremely difficult, and doing so for such a petty reason is annoying at best, heckling at worst.
yea this whole post is just a bad take. OP doesnt even have their own answer to what the other language should be.
I get your point, but I don’t think it can realistically happen. We can’t even saved dying languages.
Also mixing languages does not work well… just look at English.
If we could magically change to another language, I vote Japanese or Spanish as they are really effective t languages when you look at the amount of information that is communicated compared to syllables spoken.
spanish makes the most sense besides english, but it’s EUROOOO
Spain was the most fascistic and genocidal country that this Earth has seen! Fuck Spanish! I say this as someone who is from a Spanish-speaking country, but who hates Spain because they genocided all the native population from my country and enslaved my ancestors. Death to Spain!!!
yes, but that doesnt get you closer to finding some new language for the world to use.
Every language is associated with a region. What language do you recommend?
there is no good answer here, because any answer is probably still a European language. We’re not going to reverse several hundred years of imperialism in one life time to make a worldwide language that is woke enough for OP.
You are entitled to believe that “realistically”anything cannot happen. I dont agree since people have constantly created languages in history and we all somehow picked the language of the empire now.
We could all just “realistically” make a new language and decide to use it. All that stop us now is Anglo-empire influence.
You are right that we could. But we won’t. Learning a language is difficult, it is very difficult and takes years and years of practice and study. Additionally, you need to get the large majority of the world to support this universal language.
Most people do not care to learn a new language. Most people who learned a second language already learned English. Realistically, they are not going to want to put that effort to waste.
I get your points, but do you think what you are suggesting is realistic? Do you think it could be done in a way that does not benefit the current countries who are in power? Do you think countries will even be able to agree on a new language?
We could all just “realistically” make a new language and decide to use it.
you should read more on the history of linguistics cause you just sound silly now. languages developed over thousands of years, not because someone sat down and made it happen in a year.
Spain was the most fascistic and genocidal country that this Earth has seen! Fuck Spanish! I say this as someone who is from a Spanish-speaking country, but who hates Spain because they genocided all the native population from my country and enslaved my ancestors. Death to Spain!!!
The language predates the genocide, I do not see the problem with this language.
The language was spread through genocide and it does not predate genocide.
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Yes, everyone go learn lingwa de planeta
Bien sûr, Français est la langue supérieure, puis on doit retourner à la tradition et utilise Français comme la lingua franca.
Vive la France et vive la république 🇫🇷
Nah, fuck those genocidal and slavers. What they did to Haiti is unforgettable
