I think a lot of these social democrat/mixed economy types have good intentions, they’re just so stuffed full with western exceptionalist propaganda and haven’t yet been taught about class relations. Sure some social democrats are turned into fascists by forces of reaction, but growing up in a capitalist paradigm, never seeing the oppression of the imperial fringes, and yet wanting some semblance of respect and care and dignity given to humans in general isn’t a bad starting point.
Social democracy, or any other form of mixed economy, is inherently unstable. One side has to give, one side will eventually become stronger and bend the system and institutions to their will. In fact many social democratic institutions are already beholden to capital, even when they put up a facade of being for the people.
We don’t even need historical examples of this instability, we can see that before our eyes in Scandinavia for example. The social state is slowly becoming undone because the capitalist class is winning the class war.
Social democracy, or any other form of mixed economy, is inherently unstable. One side has to give, one side will eventually become stronger and bend the system and institutions to their will. In fact many social democratic institutions are already beholden to capital, even when they put up a facade of being for the people.
Living in a country that is ruled by “Social democrats” I can first hand confirm this. I hate Social democrats. They always try to please both the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, when in reality only the bourgeoisie gets pleased and capital gets bigger. Meanwhile the media loves to show and highlight only the petit-bourgeoisie and higher, as if anything below that is just a myth. And if you criticize this you at most get told to “just work harder bro”.
Some people here have called for nationalizing power plants before, but no politician anywhere close to any power is interested in that. “Sure we could do that and the majority would only benefit from this but we need to please both sides. Sorry guys. Here are 500€ for compensation.”
Social democracy is a totally bankrupt ideology. To quote German communists, “who betrayed us? The social democrats!” Yet due to a lack of class consciousness it’s not appropriate in most circles to say that social democracy is the left wing of fascism.
That’s why the left needs to seize on every single failure of the social democrats.
When the progressive “squad” in the US gives into the interparty pressure to retract the most pathetic excuse for an antiwar letter, every communist has a duty to be borderline obnoxious about the failure of social democracy.
Social democrats: “Communism is good in theory, but bad in practice”
Me: “MF do you even see what is going on around you?”
Completely agree. Most people who support “mixed economies” start out with good intentions, but because of propaganda and scaremongering they honestly believe that any other alternative is worse.
I think a lot of these social democrat/mixed economy types have good intentions, they’re just so stuffed full with western exceptionalist propaganda and haven’t yet been taught about class relations. Sure some social democrats are turned into fascists by forces of reaction, but growing up in a capitalist paradigm, never seeing the oppression of the imperial fringes, and yet wanting some semblance of respect and care and dignity given to humans in general isn’t a bad starting point.
Social democracy, or any other form of mixed economy, is inherently unstable. One side has to give, one side will eventually become stronger and bend the system and institutions to their will. In fact many social democratic institutions are already beholden to capital, even when they put up a facade of being for the people.
We don’t even need historical examples of this instability, we can see that before our eyes in Scandinavia for example. The social state is slowly becoming undone because the capitalist class is winning the class war.
Living in a country that is ruled by “Social democrats” I can first hand confirm this. I hate Social democrats. They always try to please both the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, when in reality only the bourgeoisie gets pleased and capital gets bigger. Meanwhile the media loves to show and highlight only the petit-bourgeoisie and higher, as if anything below that is just a myth. And if you criticize this you at most get told to “just work harder bro”.
Some people here have called for nationalizing power plants before, but no politician anywhere close to any power is interested in that. “Sure we could do that and the majority would only benefit from this but we need to please both sides. Sorry guys. Here are 500€ for compensation.”
Social democracy is a totally bankrupt ideology. To quote German communists, “who betrayed us? The social democrats!” Yet due to a lack of class consciousness it’s not appropriate in most circles to say that social democracy is the left wing of fascism.
That’s why the left needs to seize on every single failure of the social democrats.
When the progressive “squad” in the US gives into the interparty pressure to retract the most pathetic excuse for an antiwar letter, every communist has a duty to be borderline obnoxious about the failure of social democracy.
Social democrats: “Communism is good in theory, but bad in practice”
Me: “MF do you even see what is going on around you?”
Completely agree. Most people who support “mixed economies” start out with good intentions, but because of propaganda and scaremongering they honestly believe that any other alternative is worse.