USSR didn’t dissolve in Cyberpunk universe.It just liberalized. USSR stands for Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics and they’re just as infested with megacorps as the rest of the still-habitable parts of the planet
Yes of course, but what i was referring to was this line in the game about how a liberal socdem ‘USSR’ still manages to be better than the U.S.
And in CP2077 Yurop all citizens are legally entitled to real vegetables in their diet. Murikans get kibble and high-protein bacterial colonies.
What do you mean? This is just US2023
LOL would the Russian version of this new name even translate to USSR?
yes!
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) = Союз Советских Социалистических Республик (СССР)
Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics (USSR) = Союз Суверенных Советских Республик (СССР)
It’s funny because the SSRs already had the legal right to secede lol. Why change the name?
The idea of “Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics” is taken from real life. It was an attempt to reform Soviet Union into less centralized federal system. They wanted to give it a new name but also save acronym (USSR/СССР). This replacement never happened because of August Coup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Union_Treaty).
This just proves Gorby was dumb
I remember reading a chip about how the USSR would implant criminal’s brains inside of bulldozers and stuff and use them for construction
It was created by a lib so they still made it evil
:yea: however, atleast in the game its shown that USSR has better living standards than US like free healthcare, education and shit. In game version of the U.S. is basically ancapistan (not that different from real life ig)
Strictly speaking Pondsmith wrote it as if Gorbachev’s plan had worked out like Deng’s instead of leading to liberal/fascist coups dissolving the USSR. He’s got some absolutely galaxy brained takes and ideas but as far as libs go he’s weirdly endearing.
they replaced USSR with Ukraine (“між Польщею та Україною”)
Ukraine getting their own special version with completely different lore is really funny and also a little sad when you think about it too much.
One line of police dialogue referring to the game’s Scavengers faction has been altered from the English “Couldn’t all these assholes bite it out in the Badlands?” to a Ukrainian phrase that translates as “Couldn’t all this rusnia bite it out in the Badlands?” As Tarasov explains, “‘rusnia’ is a Ukrainian derogatory term for russians. Scavengers are the stereotypical Eastern European gang in the game’s universe.”
Adding new slurs to own the russians
The “punk” part of the cyberpunkerinos is so thoroughly bleached out that it’s unbearable.
Uh, punk is just being angry and doing drugs
Idk why you have to bring politics into music
Cyberpunkerinos is about sexy sex with prosthetics and neon and helping cops and saving the president.
Cyberlumpen 2077
Considering just how stale the political views and even the aesthetics are (dae le scary 80s Japan corps), may as well call it Cyberboomer.
Fucking Watch Dogs 2 had a more convincing and thought out cyberpunk setting with some actual punk vibes.
To be fair to the setting, “scary 80s Pajan” is a core part of the 1980s conception of what Cyberpunk was, and this is an adaptation of a specific setting first created in the 1980s. I also don’t think the main plot does a good job of really getting the setting across at all, as it’s pretty laser-focused on V and Johnny. It’s laden with side content and lore that paints a much more fleshed-out picture of the world.
I will admit the plot is kinda meh. They made a serious error having V be an apolitical dickbag for the entire plot. He’s supposed to be just some average Night City low-life player stand-in, and it’s entirely appropriate that you eat shit and die going up against a giant corporation, but it means that V can’t properly engage with anything that Johnny is saying. Not like there are any factions to engage with anyway.
If nothing else, remember this: Yorinobu Arasaka did nothing wrong
I’d be fine with some homage/nostalgia bits if it went more past that instead of just digging in, then and there, while moving the calendar date up some decades.
I’m going to be a real asshole now and argue that the total cultural stagnation adds a bit to the bleakness of the setting and Johnny even points it out in several instances
That’ll get em! Next time I want to hurt someone I’ll say a few mean things about them in a language they don’t speak in a game they can’t buy.
Aren’t Russian and Ukrainian so similar that they’re mutually intelligible except for a few things here and there?
It’s a 60% lexical similarity rate (including writing scripts) . That’s like equivalent to the difference between Mandarin and Cantonese…
Oh darn I thought it was higher, but I guess a lot of Ukrainians are bilingual too
Yeah, I suppose that, especially in the Donbass, Luhansk, et Crimea regions…
When the Bandera Bucks get chargebacked because your government won’t buy Ukrainian grain
I wonder if they left in the dog whistle to the right wing “FBI crime stats” trope, just to have extra solidarity with Ukraine
This makes me wonder, what’s some good sourced rebuttals against the 13/50 argument? (Edit: A direct one, so to speak)
If you adjust crime stats with socioeconomic factors there is little racial disparity in crime rates within a certain economic bracket
Furthermore minorities also attract more police attention and get caught more hence higher arrest rates
Can you give me a scientific study on that, if it’s fine?
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Then I’d suppose you point at least one example of each for your points, because this feels like a lot to handle…
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I've had these saved as pictures so idk where the post is hosted, but this gives a good sourced breakdown of why that claim is wrong.
At least this is something I can work with…
even if racially enforced poverty weren’t a factor it assumes as a given that police evenly and impartially enforce the law.
The studio that made translation said that “All terminology is directly agreed with the CDPR” (https://x.com/unlocteam/status/1704887560063914442?s=20)
Meanwhile CDPR said: “The release version of Ukrainian localization of Cyberpunk 2077 features elements of dialogues that can be considered offensive by Russian gamers, These lines have not been written by CD PROJEKT RED staff and do not represent our views. We are working to produce correct lines and substitute them in the next update.” (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/cd-projekt-apologises-for-cyberpunk-2077-ukrainian-scripts-potentially-offensive-references-to-russians)
This likely means that 1 employee was responsible for it and did do it, however very little oversight goes into the translations and now that it’s caused a problem the marketing/sales people are doing damage control because it will affect sales.
Make sense, Russians are one of their core audiences.
Yea but they banned sales to Russia and Belarus so idk who exactly they want to apologize to
Maybe to these types?
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But I doubt it.
Edit: It has to look like shit because Lemmy doesn’t allow to make it non shit.
So not only did they fuck over builds and skill trees. (Firing a weapon uses stamina? Like WTF. Separating pistols into a completely seperate branch in cool away from the rest of the guns forcing you to pick a dedicated style instead of a hybrid well rounded char.) They went Oops! All Nazis!
I think I’l just finish my playthrough on the 1.63 beta patch on Steam and forget PL. The more I hear about this 2.0 thing, the more
I get with the direction they went.The guns are split between Body, Reflex, Cool, and Tech actually, with Intelligence being devoted totally to quickhacks
It is honestly a hell of a lot better than the original system they had.
Plus you can max out 2-3 attributes.
another reason to pirate, especially games with no DRM.
But damn Russia got SO owned here.
I’m so tired of politics in games.
I genuinely am, but for the exact opposite reasons conservatives are. They think everything is being controlled by jewish communists when in fact it’s just liberal brainworms. Every time I see a game about “fighting megacorporations” I just assume it’s another shitty game about spray painting an anarchist A while some quippy millennial character cracks jokes over your earpiece, and the megacorporation CEO is some 2010 hipster beard having ass who also acts like the world is his stand up routine audience
the megacorporation CEO is some 2010 hipster beard having ass who also acts like the world is his stand up routine audience
Best I can do is a Gen-Xer with a literal neckbeard who acts like the world is his stand up routine audience and throws billion dollar tantrums if people don’t laugh.
Cyberpunk has gone woke
