• lescher@sh.itjust.works
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    Grooming does not just mean “influencing children”, stop using it for everything you don’t like

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      No we need to destroy that word by overusing it beyond what they use it for, same as woke and how we destroyed the SJW (notice no one says it anymore).

      Everything religious/conservative is now woke grooming. Join me on this.

      Jesus is a woke groomer and so are his woke followers.

      Church is a grooming center.

      GOP = Groomers on Parade

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        I think that’s probably not a bad idea.

        When the left finds a term like woke or SJW, the right turns it into a pejorative. Or they choose a term like groomer and misapply it.

        Taking a page out of their playbook and misusing and overusing the term might not be a bad idea. It takes the power of the word away from them.

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          That and we should never just refer to them as “the right” or “conservatives”. Do what they do and add some adjectives in front.

          DON’T: The alt-right, right wing, conservatives, Christians

          DO: groomer christians, snowflake republicans, the psychotic right wing,

          They never say left wing it’s always radical left wing. In turn I say we embrace it like some let’s go Brandon shit.

          The real Radical left wing:

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      “the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity” seems like a valid definition for indoctrinating kids into joining an illogical cult.

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        This definition basically means all school is grooming. And all on the job training. Or essentially anything where you are assisting someone else to be able to do something.

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          Yes by that definition that is true, but that is an actual definition of the word grooming. I was just pointing out the word did work for what it was used for

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          Yes. That’s what grooming is. It wasn’t a negative term until it started to be used to only describe grooming for sexual activities. Another word like this is cult. The basis of it is basically cultivation or worship.

          A more original definition of cult is “a system of religious veneration and devotion to a particular figure or object.” Many religions today can be defined by that.

          Even indoctrinate isn’t necessary evil: a doctrine is a belief or setbof beliefs taught by a Church, political party, or other group. Indoctrination mainly means teaching that uncritically, which is often done with many different things other than religion. Generally the negative part is not allowing the students to take a critical view to see whether what is being taught is true and/or beneficial vs negative.

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        “the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity”

        TIL I groomed my family by teaching them to use a PW manager and hardware U2F keys.

        Seems like a pretty loose definition to me

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    Prayer is already permitted in US schools under 1A what is not permitted is mandatory prayer or vocalized prayers while class is in session. I can’t recite the Nicene Creed during Algebra as that’s distracting the class.

    Mandatory prayer is grooming.

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      I remember saying the pledge of allegiance every morning in the first grade.

      “One nation, under god…”

      It may have been simply what my teacher told us to do, but what an adult says to do is pretty mandatory at that age.

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        That’s not a prayer though as you aren’t asking that God for anything which is literally what prayer is.

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          that’s splitting hairs, it’s still a creepy mandatory indoctrination speech. Fun fact, the “under god” part was added in 1954 because of pressure from the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic organization. The idea was to distinguish Americans from the scary evil godless commies. The initial Francis Bellamy version didn’t have a mention of god, even though the guy was a Baptist minister.

          shouldn’t be in schools, get it out.

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          No it isn’t a payer.

          But the larger context is that the 1st amendment doesn’t specifically call out prayer but instead prohibits establishment of a national religion.

          As such, the government isn’t permitted to endorse religious belief. “One nation, under god” isn’t specific I guess, but it is tied to the belief in a god, as opposed to no belief or belief in multiple gods. It sure seems like endorsing some religions over others or none.

          I fail to see how this is still allowed in school except that nobody is required to say the pledge. (As far as I know).

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      For me, a teacher or staff member in a group assembly saying “lets pray” is mandatory prayer due to pier pressure and authority figures in the room.