• GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    That’s not a prayer though as you aren’t asking that God for anything which is literally what prayer is.

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      10 months ago

      that’s splitting hairs, it’s still a creepy mandatory indoctrination speech. Fun fact, the “under god” part was added in 1954 because of pressure from the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic organization. The idea was to distinguish Americans from the scary evil godless commies. The initial Francis Bellamy version didn’t have a mention of god, even though the guy was a Baptist minister.

      shouldn’t be in schools, get it out.

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        10 months ago

        No it isn’t spitting hairs as they aren’t the same thing but I agree it isn’t appropriate given 1A.

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      10 months ago

      No it isn’t a payer.

      But the larger context is that the 1st amendment doesn’t specifically call out prayer but instead prohibits establishment of a national religion.

      As such, the government isn’t permitted to endorse religious belief. “One nation, under god” isn’t specific I guess, but it is tied to the belief in a god, as opposed to no belief or belief in multiple gods. It sure seems like endorsing some religions over others or none.

      I fail to see how this is still allowed in school except that nobody is required to say the pledge. (As far as I know).