• wiccan2@feddit.uk
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    How about instead of punishing “the poor” with new taxes we just made healthy food cheaper.

    How about actually giving people the time to actually prepare a healthy meal.

    No one wants to spend 30mins to an hour cooking a good meal when they only get 4 hours of time to themselves a day. Reduce everyone’s working hours and make them actually want to live a healthy life rather than treating them like consumables to be used up by businesses and replaced with their offspring.

    This is exactly the kind of thing is expect from someone so far removed from the day to day reality of normal people.

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      I said it above, but buying the fresh produce and ingredients to cook up a meal, note costs me just as much as it would to go grab fast food. And like you said, it saves me the time and saves me having to be in a hot kitchen for an hour when it’s 35⁰ c outside.

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        I mean it really doesn’t. There’s literally no fast food you can’t do cheaper at home. Sure, you might have to pay a bit more, but you’ll then have at least twice the amount of food.

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          This assumes you have storage space, utensils to cook with, money for power to cook, access to a kitchen , etc

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            Obviously.

            Living at a hotel is also cheaper then an apartment if we consider the cost of rent, a bed, electricity, water and etc.

            But living at a hotel is obviously not cheaper than renting an apartment, and no one would argue that for like 99% of cases. Perhaps for a couple of days, but long term it will get much more expensive.

            As with fast food.

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      What if, instead of perpetuating the narrative of diet culture and “healthy food” vs. “junk food”, we worked harder to provide food for those who actually need food. What if, and hear me out here, we educated people on making healthy decisions and more importantly, maintaining a healthy, positive relationship with food and their bodies?

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        Isn’t healthier eating more about convenience than education or anything else. If it’s easier for people to eat healthy compared to eating unhealthy, they’ll take that up.

        Path of least resistance and all that

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        There’s so much that’s less than ideal about this. A lot of people don’t have a big freezer. Some can’t afford to pay for bulk ingredients up front. Some people won’t have a half day spare to spend it cooking, especially if they have kids. And then there’s the depressing aspect of eating the same food everyday.

        I’m lucky I enjoy cooking so don’t mind it taking up my evenings (nor do I have kids or a small freezer or work full time on minimum wage) but even I balk at the thought of meal prepping.

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        2 meals for 5 days is pretty boring also, it takes a significant amount of time of my Sunday to batch cook. Preparing the meals, cooking, cooling, portioning, and washing. Not to mention there is still plenty of time to he spent preparing the meal on the day such as cooking veg, rice, pasta etc to go with it.

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      The food in Britain is already ridiculously cheap. And yet people choose to eat shit instead.

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        I’m glad to see people like you who thinks that eating shit is a choice. It’s cute.

        Let me explain how it works for some who are not as privileged: when people are hungry, they buy cheap. It doesn’t matter if some over privileged cunt think they are eating shit. It matters that something fills hungry, grumbly tummies. Especially for ones with kids. People really need to get off their fucking high horses and just let people eat. Jesus. It’s not hard.

        Yes it may not be the healthiest. But it sure beats outright starvation.

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          That’s not true for UK where, once again, food is RIDICULOUSLY CHEAP. You can literally make three meals for a price of one ready meal from supermarket without bulk buying in advance. People who eat shit are fucking idiots to say the least.

          The real privilege here is defending unhealthy life styles and choices instead of promoting healthy and cheaper ones. UK public is way too rich to be able to overprices shit and fight for it.

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    It’s me or this is stupid and paternalist? What are “the poors” gonna eat then?

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        Do you mean government subsidized highly addictive, processed, junk food with predatory marketing pushed by gigantic multinational corporations? Do not shirk their responsibility in this. It’s not the average person’s fault.

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        My problem is the whole “poor people eat poorly because they are stupid. I will force them to take the good decision”

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          100%. I did my undergraduate degree in public health, and one thing that I constantly saw about program development for nutrition and food subsidy programs was people thinking that the main issue to an individual getting proper nutrition was not having an education on how to cook or recognize nutritious versus non-nutritious foods. So they wanted to have stupid bullshit like nutrition classes for snap benefits. Where you wouldn’t get the benefits unless you took the classes, how fucking shortsighted and missing the entirety of the issue. As if a single parent who’s working two jobs is going to have the time to cook or even the time to grocery shop well.

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    Why is every politicians answer to everything “make the poor pay more money!”?

    If I go buy the ingredients to make cheeseburgers for my family nowadays, out will cost just as much as if I went to burger king to buy them. The so called junk food is many times the cheapest option. These fucks just want to kill off the poor with taxes

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        Yeah but you’re missing the point. It costs the same, and I’m wrecked from work and don’t have time or energy to cook, so I’ll take the fast food every time

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          How is BK cheaper, they are so expensive? It’s like 5.99 for a whopper. Or is this something like feeding your family the 280 calories saver burger which is £1.50?

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            work requires long hours to get by

            doesn’t have the time to make food from scratch every day

            entirely their fault

            ???

            Not to mention the cost of electricity has skyrocketed in recent months, so cooking (esp. using an oven) is massively expensive.

            I cook my own stuff from scratch, but that’s because I have a job that I can work from home for, and that I can flex hours with. But I have the empathy to recognise that I’m privelaged in that regard.

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    Tony Blair says junk food should be made too expensive for the poor to afford through new sugar and salt taxes to tackle obesity

    You’re on an island surrounded by salt water, Tony. If people want salt, they’re gonna get salt.

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    Who knew Tony Blair and Jamie Oliver had so much in common. Maybe Jamie Oliver is a secret war criminal.

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    Just another way to rob workers of more time and money and treat them like the serfs the leech class sees them as.

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    How about we take these fuckers champagne and shove it up where the sun don’t shine?! Seriously how dare they think of more ways to starve people?! Surely if he gives a damn then he should tackle the fact people are struggling to eat and live rather than worry about some so called obesity crisis?!

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    Sounds like someone needs a reminder to have his fucking cake cake and shit the fuck up up while eating it too or else it’s going to be shoved up his ass.

    Rich fuck.

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    I think this would be more effective than a lot of us lefties would like to admit. “Healthy” food is already affordable, people just don’t want to eat it when there are other options.

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        It’s not a tax on poor people, its a tax on unhealthy food, which you’ll be surprised to find out that everyone eats regardless of economic class.