Materialism>idealism
I’m not trying to get into a whole debate, it’s just interesting to me the way some people cling to these idealist philosophers. Same w the stoics imo. As a guy who used to read all of them… they’re useless to actually understanding life. Like it can be helpful to read them in order to understand how the Western worldview evolved, but they really shouldn’t be taken as some sort of handbook - which many seem to do. (reactionaries). People who read Nietzsche or Plato and think they have some sort of secret insight is my biggest red flag irt pseudo-intellectual who is just going to waste your time… same with Dostoevsky btw.
Confucius is based af though.
Edit: Also, yes these kinds of people exist- my former mentor/boss who spent decades at a white shoe DC law firm would accept any idea if you found a quote by Plato to justify it lmao.
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He very much was talking about races, and the need for european “blond beasts of prey” to expand outward and conquer the world, he was very explicit about that, in the quote above.
He also is a thorough orientalist, and advocates for their conquering:
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This makes me think you haven’t read him much. His entire philosophy is admiration for the teutonic and roman conquerers.
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Also with respect to eugenics, he very much was an advocate of a landed hereditary aristocracy:
Even Plato, who was an aristocratic philosopher, didn’t think that aristocracy should be hereditary, but rather based on ability.
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How can you read this and not think he’s talking about genetics?
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What do you think hereditary aristocracy is? That’s an aristocracy of bloodlines.
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I have to post the 2nd half of this tiny quote too?
How can you be this dense? He’s talking about racial superiority, not upbringing.
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That’s not a term he uses… get a grip.
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If me saying “you can mean something without actually using a specific word” is being too surface level…
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Yes you fucking complete and utter asshat. I am just pointing out the fact that the comment where you accuse me of being too surface level is in response to me criticizing you for saying “ummm he actually didn’t use that word”
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