Why doesn’t Russia declare war on the US after all the Military Aid being sent to Ukraine?

      • blargerer@kbin.social
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        Its possible for a nation to overestimate their military might. Look at some of the US’s embarrassing wars when they were forced into Guerrilla warfare. But there are still limits. There is no way russia thinks they can beat Nato in a conventional war. Its why their strategy is around developing technologies that maintain nuclear effectiveness (though I think anyone looking at the numbers has to have some serious doubt about how nuclear capable russia really is).

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          There is no way russia thinks they can beat Nato in a conventional war. That is exactly what they think. Same with north Korea etc. Propaganda and disinformation are powerful tools to manipulate people.

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    They can hardly fight the war they are in, what would the point of getting the biggest military power on the planet involved directly?

    Russia has not a sliver of a chance fighting the US in a conventional war and nobody wants a nuclear war.

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      Yeah, at this point Russia wouldn’t even stand against Europe, let alone America’s toy box of death. The only thing keeping everyone is the danger of nukes, because that’s somebody nobody wants to risk even if we have meassures. You never know what could happen. But a conventional war? nah.

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      I love this crazy tagline. It’s crazy that so many of you think Ukraines army could actually have stopped RU on is own.

      Reality check kiddos. UK world have run out of ammo more than a year ago. NATO has been running the entirety of the war behind the scenes.

      Should NATO stop sending billions of dollars in weapons and revoke access to salitlite imagery and intelligence they are fucked. Even today Russia would claw back every single reclaimed lane mass and finally take over the cities.

      You people are delusional thinking the Ukrainian army could win a sustained fight.

      I’m 100% in support of Ukraine, bit this is NATO and frankly the US winning this war using Ukraine lives on the ground.

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        It’s crazy that so many of you think Ukraines army could actually have stopped RU on is own.

        And who exactly thinks that?

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        I’m 100% in support of Ukraine, bit this is NATO and frankly the US winning this war using Ukraine lives on the ground.

        I mean, you can see it that way, but NATO is only sending equipment. The people on the ground are still Ukrainians (and a miniscule number of foreign volunteers). Logistics is important, but it’s still only one part of winning a war.

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          NATO is effectively running the entire command and war. They are using NATO intelligence that NATO chooses to send. They are using NATO designed weapons that NATO allows them to use. They are training units to use NATO tactics. The EU/US, so basically NATO, and still mostly the US btw (for all off this), is sending billions in economic aid. They do not listen, that goes away. They do not have the resources to fight a massive country like RU.

          You are living in fantasy land if you think a small country with a GDP of 156B is going to win a war with a nuclear armed power with a GDP of 1.5T. It’s like you people just ignore the first week of this shit where RU forces were shelling multiple cities. They were fighting for the core of their country 1W into the invasion. And power to them. They fought like hell and fend them off.

          Then the US stepped in, started sending weapons, and UK/ FR/US intelligence while fucking Germany sent helmets and made some last ditch efforts to justify nordstreams continued use.

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            People hate this because they think pointing out that Ukraine has received aid is the same as denouncing their entire army or some stupid shit.

            You’re right as the day is long, but you’re not fawning and showering them with praise, so people will hate you.

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    Because this is like the biggest strongest kid in school and all of their 6ft + tall 250 pound friends handing out sticks to the bully’s victim so they can hit back and the 5 ft nothing 150 pound bully decides “you know what? Id like to fight these people directly while im bullying this other kid”

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    Because there would be no Russia left. They have issues with 80s and 90s tech in Ukraine. Imagine if they had yo go against the new shit. Oh yeah also NATO is a thing and European Texas (Poland) is next to them, not to mention Germany finland, and France.

    They also are quite afraid of where China will stand on that.

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    Before they attacked Ukraine the second time, Russia had a GDP smaller than the state of Texas by itself. Texas isn’t even the largest state GDP in the USA. The US military budget is 3/4ths of the entire Russian GDP. There is no contest. Russia is a bad joke.

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      Russia is currently the second most powerful military force, with combined air, naval and ground forces, in the entire territorial area of Ukraine.

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    Because it would be suicide. Russia is fond of saber rattling and “oh-so-serious” threats about nukes, but Article 5 means they’re never attacking a NATO power. They don’t actually want to escalate either (I assume - it’d be catastrophically, titanically idiotic) but like a very, very small dog, have to yap loudly so nobody notices.

    And over military aid? Nah. Best they can do is “punish” it by keeping sulking and whining hypocritically, same as they have been all along.

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      The loud barking of the tiny dog does, however, with on many people. Like Elon Musk, sabotaging Ukraine’s efforts because he is so afraid of Russia.

  • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world
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    They are already losing the war to the US. What do you think pulling the actual USAF+ Navy into the fight is going to do? We’re sending 30 year old equipment. The good shit isn’t even being touched.

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    Because of alliances. We have them and Russia doesn’t. Our military is massive and strong but it won’t work if nobody lets you inside their borders or sea and airspace.

    Community is stronger than weapons.

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    Russia can’t even beat Ukraine with their surplus second rate western weapons. NATO, because that’s who the fight would be against, would destroy Russia. If Russia used nukes everyone would die. It’s a loss for Russia either way. No one outside of Russia believes that Russia even had a hint of a chance against NATO. The Ukraine war has made that very clear.

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    Russia is already a paper tiger in Ukraine, them declaring war on the US would result in an 8-12 month war, that replaces Putin with warlords, and after that Putin’s image would be way worse than of Stalin’s and the last Tzar’s combined.

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      Strange you think the war would last that long. In reality, day 1 of the US’s attack would involve wiping out all of Russia’s air defenses and preventing so much as a dji drone from taking off. After that they just land a team in Putin’s office and slap the man in the face.

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        The ones who don’t want to see the west win.

        Nobody gives a shit about Russia, but there are plenty of countries who would not want nato to succeed, if only to keep what is now Russia away from them once the country collapses under the population drain and economic oblivion caused by the conflict.

        We already have certain hostile countries engaging in more or less subtle support, for example the Iranian suicide drones that somehow made their way into Russian hands in large quantities. China would not want nato to have Russia, they would rather claim it themselves.

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          The ones who don’t want to see the west win.

          Who will join Russia in actually fighting the war?

          China? No.

          Nth Korea? No.

          Iran? No

          Any others?

          No.

          They would be all on their own.

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              They might try but:

              The US pacific fleet will still be there.

              It takes months of prep to attempt to cross the Sth China Sea and they cannot hide the buildup. There are only about 2 or 3 months of the year when it is even possible.

              Taiwan has almost perfect defensive geography. There are only two possible landing sites and Taiwan has been preparing them as killing zones for the past 70 years.

              Honestly, Russia’s progress in the past two years would look like a stunning success in comparison.

  • boyi@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Because their weapons are no match and they can’t sustain prolong war that the US can afford. The only way they could possibly win is through nuclear arsenal. Their strategists are not fool to commit that. Almost suicidal.