The reality of the situation is that US now has staggering levels of inequality not since since the 30s, and things are going to continue getting worse going forward.
The violent schisms are not between the haves and have-nots. They’re between political factions. The way this does interact with economic inequality is more regional, where the economies of certain regions are being hollowed out as part of economic shifts.
Warming climate is also starting to affect harvests which will inevitably result in food shortages.
The US has its climate problems, no thanks to the dunderheads who drink the fossil fuel industry propaganda Kool-Aid and stop progress. But there are already people working on resilience measures when it comes to crops. We may not be able to have as many strawberries and almonds, but we’re nowhere near a collapse in food. As cultured meat and dairy gains popularity, that should additionally alleviate a lot of the water issues since those are both incredibly water intensive when done with cows.
The violent schisms are not between the haves and have-nots. They’re between political factions.
Ultimately, violent schisms always end up being between haves and have-nots. These schisms are only starting to develop now and being expressed as tribalism within the existing political framework. Eventually those will spill over into a class conflict.
Economic problems are not regional at all. Working class people across the country are finding themselves in increasingly untenable positions. Look at any stats on how majority of Americans are doing economically. Less than half of Americans have savings to cover a $1,000 surprise expense which means most people are living paycheck to paycheck, and now the cost of living is rising rapidly as runaway inflation and recession set in.
But there are already people working on resilience measures when it comes to crops. We may not be able to have as many strawberries and almonds, but we’re nowhere near a collapse in food.
You are woefully misinformed. Heatwaves resulted in massive crop loss last year. On top of that, a river in Colorado that around 40 million people rely on is drying up while California is running out of fresh water as well. This isn’t a future problem, it’s happening today.
As cultured meat and dairy gains popularity, that should additionally alleviate a lot of the water issues since those are both incredibly water intensive when done with cows.
None of these technologies are even close to replacing traditional farming on any significant scale.
US is also starting to see shortages of essential goods now.
It’s worth noting that people in positions of power have the exact same fantasy mindset as you do. Halting and reversing current trends requires honestly acknowledging root causes of the problems in order to take corrective action. However, existing political climate precludes this from happening. The further along collapse of the empire progresses the more difficult it becomes to arrest it, and by the time the problems become obvious to the decision makers there’s little that they will be able to do about them.
Okay Hari Seldon, here’s why the US is not doing as badly as you think.
Ultimately, violent schisms always end up being between haves and have-nots. These schisms are only starting to develop now and being expressed as tribalism within the existing political framework. Eventually those will spill over into a class conflict.
That’s patently untrue. Plenty of violent internal political strife has developed around tribal groups, but never developed between economic strata. And of course the only all out civil war in the US was between two groups of states, not economic groups. I don’t expect the actual violence to spread beyond fringe groups who are already at each others throats.
Economic problems are not regional at all.
Except they are. Entire towns are having their economies hollowed out. Usually they are towns that specialized too much on one industry, then suffer when that industry dies or moves to another place to exploit. On the other hand, other cities are having severe growing pains as incoming people attracted to their bustling economies are making housing in particular difficult.
None of these technologies are even close to replacing traditional farming on any significant scale.
It’s hard to tell what the timeline will be. That said, factories are already under construction for some types of cultured meat. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw some of the easier meats (e.g. ground beef) be cheaper than animal meats within the decade.
California also needs to make reforms to its water use regulations. Currently, water is parceled out based on historical water rights. Farmers with large historical claims will often use that water to grow hungry crops like alfalfa. The regulations should not privilege some farmers over other farmers, which should help at least some in increasing efficient use of water.
Shortages
Everyone was (and is) seeing shortages as part of the COVID-19 pandemic. But it was often overstated. Supply chain management had for too long focused on being extremely lean at the expense of resilience. COVID-19 threw that into chaos, which has given supply chains a lesson in too much lean. But even when things were at their worst, the grocery stores were never empty. It was just a matter of maybe changing a recipe.
That’s patently untrue. Plenty of violent internal political strife has developed around tribal groups, but never developed between economic strata. And of course the only all out civil war in the US was between two groups of states, not economic groups. I don’t expect the actual violence to spread beyond fringe groups who are already at each others throats.
The context here is the collapsing standard of living in US. If you examine similar examples, as the book I linked earlier does, it’s pretty clear that the schisms are class conflicts in these situations.
Except they are. Entire towns are having their economies hollowed out. Usually they are towns that specialized too much on one industry, then suffer when that industry dies or moves to another place to exploit. On the other hand, other cities are having severe growing pains as incoming people attracted to their bustling economies are making housing in particular difficult.
Obviously things are deteriorating at different rates in different parts of the country. However, my point was that the standard of living is dropping across the country, and working class people are struggling everywhere in US right now. Most people who don’t already own a home have no hope of being able to afford housing at this point.
It’s hard to tell what the timeline will be. That said, factories are already under construction for some types of cultured meat. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw some of the easier meats (e.g. ground beef) be cheaper than animal meats within the decade.
US has population of over 300 million. A couple of experimental factories aren’t going to feed US population. Solving that problem would require large scale investment that is nowhere to be found, especially in a collapsing economy.
All it’s going to take is a couple of weeks of extreme weather to kill the crops, and at that point there’s going to be a famine. This has happened many times throughout history. In fact, climate related famines were one of the major driving forces behind Russian revolution at the start of the 20th century.
Everyone was (and is) seeing shortages as part of the COVID-19 pandemic. But it was often overstated. Supply chain management had for too long focused on being extremely lean at the expense of resilience. COVID-19 threw that into chaos, which has given supply chains a lesson in too much lean. But even when things were at their worst, the grocery stores were never empty. It was just a matter of maybe changing a recipe.
Supply chain management works the only way it can work within US financial system. The lesson that was learned is that the government will just print more money to bail out the companies when a crash happens. Lots of basic items are now gone from circulation, and the problem continues to get worse. We haven’t seen the full impact of the economic war hit yet either, that will be seen in a few months.
The violent schisms are not between the haves and have-nots. They’re between political factions. The way this does interact with economic inequality is more regional, where the economies of certain regions are being hollowed out as part of economic shifts.
The US has its climate problems, no thanks to the dunderheads who drink the fossil fuel industry propaganda Kool-Aid and stop progress. But there are already people working on resilience measures when it comes to crops. We may not be able to have as many strawberries and almonds, but we’re nowhere near a collapse in food. As cultured meat and dairy gains popularity, that should additionally alleviate a lot of the water issues since those are both incredibly water intensive when done with cows.
Ultimately, violent schisms always end up being between haves and have-nots. These schisms are only starting to develop now and being expressed as tribalism within the existing political framework. Eventually those will spill over into a class conflict.
Economic problems are not regional at all. Working class people across the country are finding themselves in increasingly untenable positions. Look at any stats on how majority of Americans are doing economically. Less than half of Americans have savings to cover a $1,000 surprise expense which means most people are living paycheck to paycheck, and now the cost of living is rising rapidly as runaway inflation and recession set in.
You are woefully misinformed. Heatwaves resulted in massive crop loss last year. On top of that, a river in Colorado that around 40 million people rely on is drying up while California is running out of fresh water as well. This isn’t a future problem, it’s happening today.
None of these technologies are even close to replacing traditional farming on any significant scale.
US is also starting to see shortages of essential goods now.
It’s worth noting that people in positions of power have the exact same fantasy mindset as you do. Halting and reversing current trends requires honestly acknowledging root causes of the problems in order to take corrective action. However, existing political climate precludes this from happening. The further along collapse of the empire progresses the more difficult it becomes to arrest it, and by the time the problems become obvious to the decision makers there’s little that they will be able to do about them.
Okay Hari Seldon, here’s why the US is not doing as badly as you think.
That’s patently untrue. Plenty of violent internal political strife has developed around tribal groups, but never developed between economic strata. And of course the only all out civil war in the US was between two groups of states, not economic groups. I don’t expect the actual violence to spread beyond fringe groups who are already at each others throats.
Except they are. Entire towns are having their economies hollowed out. Usually they are towns that specialized too much on one industry, then suffer when that industry dies or moves to another place to exploit. On the other hand, other cities are having severe growing pains as incoming people attracted to their bustling economies are making housing in particular difficult.
It’s hard to tell what the timeline will be. That said, factories are already under construction for some types of cultured meat. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw some of the easier meats (e.g. ground beef) be cheaper than animal meats within the decade.
California also needs to make reforms to its water use regulations. Currently, water is parceled out based on historical water rights. Farmers with large historical claims will often use that water to grow hungry crops like alfalfa. The regulations should not privilege some farmers over other farmers, which should help at least some in increasing efficient use of water.
Everyone was (and is) seeing shortages as part of the COVID-19 pandemic. But it was often overstated. Supply chain management had for too long focused on being extremely lean at the expense of resilience. COVID-19 threw that into chaos, which has given supply chains a lesson in too much lean. But even when things were at their worst, the grocery stores were never empty. It was just a matter of maybe changing a recipe.
The context here is the collapsing standard of living in US. If you examine similar examples, as the book I linked earlier does, it’s pretty clear that the schisms are class conflicts in these situations.
Obviously things are deteriorating at different rates in different parts of the country. However, my point was that the standard of living is dropping across the country, and working class people are struggling everywhere in US right now. Most people who don’t already own a home have no hope of being able to afford housing at this point.
US has population of over 300 million. A couple of experimental factories aren’t going to feed US population. Solving that problem would require large scale investment that is nowhere to be found, especially in a collapsing economy.
All it’s going to take is a couple of weeks of extreme weather to kill the crops, and at that point there’s going to be a famine. This has happened many times throughout history. In fact, climate related famines were one of the major driving forces behind Russian revolution at the start of the 20th century.
Supply chain management works the only way it can work within US financial system. The lesson that was learned is that the government will just print more money to bail out the companies when a crash happens. Lots of basic items are now gone from circulation, and the problem continues to get worse. We haven’t seen the full impact of the economic war hit yet either, that will be seen in a few months.