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So how’s it going?

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    1 year ago

    It feels like its been like this for the last year or two. There was a few months where my area was getting at least a shooting per week

    • Dave@lemmy.nzM
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      1 year ago

      Yes and no. Overall the murder rate is going down (barring 15 March 2019): https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/NZL/new-zealand/crime-rate-statistics

      There’s more recent years in this PDF: https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/historic-new-zealand-murder-offences-1926-2021.pdf

      So we get 10-11 murders per 1 million population. This is half what it was in the 90s.

      However, there has been a recent violent crime increase. This is also not unexpected, as Labour has a policy of reducing the prison population. Putting less people in prison has longer term societal benefits but you can imagine it would lead to shorter term increases in violent crime, which does appear to be the case: https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/the-whole-truth/130965380/the-whole-truth-has-violent-crime-gone-up-under-labour

      • SamC@lemmy.nzOP
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        1 year ago

        However, there has been a recent violent crime increase. This is also not unexpected, as Labour has a policy of reducing the prison population. Putting less people in prison has longer term societal benefits but you can imagine it would lead to shorter term increases in violent crime, which does appear to be the case

        It does suggest rehabilitation isn’t working though (assuming any increase is actually mostly from people who were previously convicted).

        That said, crime stats seem to be so fraught, it’s really hard to tell what’s going on with any degree of precision

        • Dave@lemmy.nzM
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          1 year ago

          Not necessarily. If you have a 50% recidivism rate but hold less people in prison, crime rates will go up even if the rate doesn’t change, simply because there are more people out of prison. Even if the recidivism rate goes down you may have more crime. But if over time the lower recidivism rate means less people go back to prison, over time you should see overall crime drop. This is probably a generatonal time period though. Short term higher crime rates for longer term gain.

      • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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        1 year ago

        That link you posted shows a giant spike and it being the highest its been since the 90s

        • Dave@lemmy.nzM
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          1 year ago

          Yes, that giant spike is in 2019 with the March 15 terror attacks. It goes back to the normal line in 2020 as shown in the PDF.