• tahoe@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As much as I like my iPhone, I hate where this is going. Monopolies are always bad for the consumers, especially with companies as focused on control as Apple.

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    I’m a Linux/Android guy historically and I have to say I really love the stance Apple takes on privacy versus Google’s more, uh, laxe privacy stance. Knowing my phone OS that I carry everywhere with me wasn’t designed by a company selling my data would be a significant plus and has had me rethinking things lately. A lot more than, say, whether I prefer the UI or customizability or the camera suite.

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      1 year ago

      I would switch to iphone myself if it wasn’t for sideloading, and ublock origin in Firefox.

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      Yes I’m conflicted. I don’t like the tracking Google does but I do love how Android has so much more FOSS apps.

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        1 year ago

        If you want Android, you could just install a degoogled Android rom on a phone that support it.

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      As someone who works in Cybersecurity, I read a lot of security reports. I haven’t seen an iPhone be the most private/secure phone in about half a decade.

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        It doesn’t have to be the most secure. It just has to be secure for the majority of use cases.

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            You’re acting like you don’t realize that there is a difference between end user privacy, and security from targeted attacks.

            I don’t really care how hard it would be for a motivated attacker to target me and breach the security of my device.

            I do really care about how hard it is for every website on earth to know intimate, personal details about my life.

            iOS is the only sane choice.

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              No. I’m very aware.

              Android gives you full control over the permissions given to apps just like iOS does.

              And since you can download additional browsers and browser plugins that aren’t just repackaged Safari, you can have a lot more control over your Internet privacy if you want it.

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                Google’s entire profit model is offering software for free so that they can gather data and sell ads.

                Granular app permissions are a start, but barely. Cross-app tracking is a bigger deal, and Apple is miles ahead of Google there; and Google is never going to catch up, because it would destroy their revenue search.

                I’ve used both platforms extensively, I actually love Android. Google assistant is so much better than Siri that it’s obnoxious, custom roms are a ton of fun, having a way to get root access on a device is so important it should be legally required.

                But, if you think that a company that exists to build an advertising profile and sell ads will ever produce a device that meaningfully blocks the ability to build an advertising profile, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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                  Google restricts Cross app tracking and you can entirely disable the ad profile.

                  They will continue to make money off of the users who don’t care, while capturing more market from those who do.

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    It’s always very dodgy when companies track and quote “shipped” goods. That is the manufacturers saying they have shipped their products to retailers. That does not mean customers have bought those products.

    There can be many other reasons why product shipments fluctuate up and down. The trends can be useful though.

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    It is interesting how the US are continuing to adopt Apple/iPhone in contrast to the rest of the world. I think its one of those things where once the majority take hold it becomes set in culture which further embeds the trend.

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      It is a US company, that likely helps a little. They are expensive. In many countries 55% could not afford them. Easy access to Apple stores to fix issues is a massive advantage.

      Anecdotally, my friends and family that have switched have done so because of malware. Apple is far from perfect, but Google has done a terrible job of keeping bad apps out of the Play store. And malicious software has other ways of getting installed. My sister was a diehard Samsung user, but reluctantly bought an iPhone when she started getting porn pop ups and her and none of her friends could figure out how to stop them.

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          She probably isn’t a perfect tech user, and installed an app that she shouldn’t.

          But iphone users don’t usually have this problem anyway so sister still ends up benefiting from that ecosystem.

          Google needs to stay more on top of the app store. It’s clear they never had the man power to actually police it well.

          There are benefits to that as well, apps that enabled features that carriers didn’t want to be enabled used to be pretty popular. Not to mention the benefit of being able to side load apps if you are a power user.

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            It literally gives you a bright red warning full screen that you have to read and only can accept after waiting 10 seconds, shes just ignoring it, thats her problem ngl

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              Wait. I’ve never seen this screen? Are you saying that the play store has a bright red warning like you’ve described?

              I’m talking about the play store, the official store, which has sometimes hosted adware and malware.

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    I would never go back to android. When an apple update comes out fixing issues I can get it for my phone. With android you never know if an update will reach your phone. Android is a complete shit show.

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        I’m on a Pixel now. Going back to iOS the moment the USB-C iPhone is on sale.

        Sure, .apks, custom launchers, and things like GrapheneOS are nice, but Android is a shit show. Ux is all over the place and everything lacks polish overall.

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          I’m gonna have to disagree on that.

          iPhones don’t even have a universal back gesture. Sometimes you have to swipe a card down from the top of the screen, sometimes you have to hit a back button in the top left, sometimes you can use the back swipe gesture.

          Moreover, the animations are slow, which makes the phone (depaite having an incredible processor) feel incredibly slow.

          The keyboard doesn’t give you a number row and it hides the period and comma behind another layer.

          LastPass integration sucks compared to Android.

          The UI scaling feels like you’re using one of those remotes for old people. If I’m reading an email, content on Lemmy, my texts, etc. I can see only about 70% of the content I’d see on my Android.

          You can’t even free place icons in iOS.

          And don’t get me started on the notifications screen and the limitations in notification quick actions.

          I tried to switch to a 14 Pro when I got my last phone, but I just couldn’t deal with how frustrating the UI was. It’s so slow and cumbersome to navigate around your phone and do stuff.