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    You’re wrong Alito, Congress can definitely make rules and laws to regulate you. They have the explicit authority to do that.

    “The court can be trusted to self-regulate”

    That’s bullshit. With your unethical bribes being accepted and the bullshit rulings you’ve been making have proven you’re an incompetent corrupt court.

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        I mean, these people haven’t even read the laws they’re supposed to be deciding cases on. You expect him to read his own website too? The privilege.

        /s

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          You used sarcasm. Samuel Alito might not have read actual law in years. He mostly writes about the current manufactured outrage from Fox News, and tries to shoehorn that into an opinion. He’s gone off-topic a few times in recent years, trying to shove culture war bullshit into cases where they’re only tangentially related.

          It’s called Fox News Brain. Your racist uncle and a sitting Justice of the Supreme Court both have it.

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        Pretty much all authority the Supreme Court has is power it has given itself. It’s long overdue being reigned in.

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          Indeed, I posted this on another thread about the court

          Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Smith Adams, September 11, 1804, “but the opinion [Marbury v Madison] which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional, and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislature & executive also in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch.”

      • That had to do with size of the court.

        Constitution says it’s a lifetime appointment, though.

        Can have all the rules you want, which the justices are free to ignore because the Constitution says it’s a lifetime seat.

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      But will congress enforce the rules? By enforce, I mean using the power of Impeachment and voting to convict under said Article(s) of Impeachment. Otherwise, any rules are pointless. A president can only be prosecuted after leaving office, how do prosecute a sitting supreme court justice who serves for life? Even if you did, they’d still be a sitting justice that can rule from prison since criminal conviction =/= impeachment conviction, and I’d imagine the case could go up to the very court that he/she sit in, and it only takes 4 of their collegues plus their own vote to overturn their own conviction.

      In this political climate, it’s practically impossible to convict a justice under the impeachment procedure.

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        An impeachment is not a criminal trial, the Supreme Court would have no authority to make a decision in an impeachment.

        Impeachment is purely a political tool to remove nefarious actors from the government. So an impeached justice would have his spot on the bench taken away, and then would be a regular citizen who can face trial and imprisonment like any other.

        If they decide to ignore that rule, it’s literally the job the of the president to have them arrested and brought before congress to face their impeachment.

        I would hope if the court tried to play that hand, congress would actually start using their authority and install a new court, but I trust congress to have a spine as much as I trust my 102 year old neighbor to mow his lawn.

        But don’t worry, that would be like the 3rd constitutional crisis we’ve had in 5 years. They’re getting kind of boring now anyway.

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    We the people made up the rules and we can change them in any way we want. If the supreme Court has some kind of magic that stops that they are free to deploy that but in the meantime we can assume that they are flesh bags like the rest of us.

    • He means absent a Constitutional amendment. And he’s correct.

      Congress authority is limited to saying what type of cases the court can take and how many justices there are.

      Constitution says they are lifetime appointments. Can’t really attach rules to that. Even if they break the rules, they are still lifetime appointments.

      Only way out is death, retirement, or impeachment. I think only one justice was ever impeached.

        • Uhhh, no? Courts and officers of the court are bound, top to bottom. Someone that ignores orders may be held in contempt. Courts can issue writs of capias to any proper officer and writs of mandamus to lower courts.

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        Maybe I’m wrong but I thought the only thing the constitution says about it is “there shall be a supreme court.”

        Regardless, the constitution was created to be amended, and it’s the states that vote on those. You know. That whole democracy thing.

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    “The court has investigated the court and found no wrongdoing on the part of the court”

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      “The court has investigated the court, and the majority of the court found no wrongdoing on our the courts part.”

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      SCOTUS won’t be able to do shit against a determined president. They’re the most powerful branch now, but only one branch has direct access to an enforcement arm, and it isn’t SCOTUS.

      They better tread carefully. People are only going to become more extreme the more they continue dictating from the bench for the wealthy and corporations. They could be completely neutered as an institution.

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    So the constitution gave SCOTUS the authority to regulate women’s bodies?

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      The court gave the court that authority.

      When you think about it, the court itself has been unconstitutional since 1803 when they decided for themselves that they had the authority to decide what is and isn’t constitutional. Marbury V Madison is the case that “gave” the court the power of judicial review. A power that is not enumerated in the constitution whatsoever, and was entirely made up by the Supreme Court.

      Judicial review is a bullshit system and should have been struck down with an act of congress immediately. Unfortunately, Americans have apparently always been lazy, and delegating constitutional questions to the court was seen as easier than making amendments all the time.

      In short: sack the court and start again. Create a new entity for making constitutional interpretations, and make SCOTUS back into what it was supposed to be: the final court of appeals for the judicial system.

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        Then what would stop Congress from creating blatantly unconstitutional laws? Getting rid of judicial review sounds like a good idea now because the court is run by fascists, but I’m not convinced that getting rid of it entirely would make things better.

        I think judicial review needs some serious revision and way to check against its power, but getting rid of it completely makes the legislature too powerful.

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          To quote myself “create a new entity that is responsible for constitutional interpretation”

          Preferably these would be elected positions under the legislative branch with a formal code of ethics and terms limits. If a position is going to change the interpretation of laws, it should fall under the preview of law makers.

          Judicial review has been used, and is fundamentally the power, to legislate from the bench. The duty of a court is to decide how laws are to be executed, not to decide what those laws mean. The meaning of the law is up to congress, and the enforcement of the law is up to the executive branch. The court is merely there to decide when those laws have been breached and what punishment that entity deserves, if any.

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          How is this far right? The right loves the current court, it’s their personal sledgehammer they can pull out to erode our freedoms whenever they wish.

          Just because something had been done for a long time, doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

          For a long time, the west had kings as governments. We fought a war to get rid of that. The French started cutting off heads to end that.

          For a long time, the church was a key government entity, our constitution explicitly states that the government is entirely separate to the church.

          For a long time, common people had no rights to trial by peers or privacy in their own homes from the government. Again, we have an amendment that enshrines that.

          The Supreme Court has been abusing their power too much and for too long. It needs to change, and one those changes should be to judicial review. No more legislation from the bench.

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    And some state legislators believe the Independent State Legislature interpretation of the Constitution.

    He and they are wrong.