How decentralized is Bluesky really? -- Dustycloud Brainstorms
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    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.worldEnglish
      67·
      13 hours ago

      Yes, and it’s inherently designed not to be.

      But it also bears repeating that decentralization by itself has no advantage, either.

      • atro_city@fedia.io
        11·
        12 hours ago

        But it also bears repeating that decentralization by itself has no advantage, either.

        Could you expand on that?

  • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
    191·
    16 hours ago

    Oh damn, that’s a lot of cross-posts. I didn’t know this had already been posted so many times before.

    • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
      27·
      16 hours ago

      Yeah its a great read that people enjoyed a lot.

      One of the best parts is where she explains that bluesky cant scale down. You can run an activitypub server on a literal potato by design, but bluesky can’t ever be decoupled from it’s “eye of god” central architecture. The best case scenario for atproto federation is wikipedia or the Internet archive hosting a competing federated instance, but neither have stepped into that “millions/month” role.

      I think the head technical lead at bluesky responded in a very respectful and technical way and did cop to some limitatoons why highlighting blueskys strengths. That reply is here.

      • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        13 hours ago

        Thank you so much for the additional context!

        I’ve never felt inclined to regard bluesky with hostility, but definitely wouldn’t call myself a fan; honestly that was a really thoughtful reply and improved my impression of bluesky as a platform

        I hope they can avoid the pitfalls of venture capital funding and build a platform that doesn’t suck, even if mastodon will be my microblogging home on the internet :)

        • Inf_V@kbin.earth
          5·
          13 hours ago

          How is Mastodon? I’m a bit new to Fediverse and I’ve been wanting to try multiple things in everything really.

          • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            11 hours ago

            I really like it personally, but I’ve heard some folks have somewhat mixed experiences with it

            I think it’s more of a different kind of Internet culture from Twitter than lemmy is from reddit (in both cases I’m ignoring obvious political differences)

            Some folks have reported having experiences with that culture clash or crummy instance leadership. I never used twitter but I’ve heard it’s more serious of a platform and culture (which in part might be that it’s a fairly political culture like lemmy is).

            All of that sounds negative but that’s all second hand, my experience has been wonderful 😅. Granted, I mostly just use it to tell people I think their art is pretty and occasionally chat with splatoon folks (a competitive game I like). But I know lots of folks are very happy with it.

            Like with much of the fediverse, getting unlucky and picking an instance that has leadership issues can cause problems for you, and picking a bigger instance generally gets you a kind of a more “vanilla” experience, but doesn’t lean into the decentralized benefits of the fediverse as much. And Mastodon, although not as big as corporate platforms, is a fair bit bigger than lemmy/kbin I think

            I have a bunch of lemmy accounts on various and have bounced around between them figuring out where I wanna be (thinking I might switch back to lem.ee), but with Mastodon I just picked mastodon.online and have never had any real issues so that’s where my account is :)

            Edit: actually, I wish the character limit is longer. I type too much (as you can see lol) and I’m not used to having a limit cause I never used twitter 😅

            Hope this helps, if you have any particular questions feel free to ask ☺️

              • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                11 hours ago

                I’m really glad you appreciated it! I’ve seen a good handful of yours I’ve appreciated- I’m glad I could do the same ☺️

              • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                11 hours ago

                You’re so very welcome, I hope your experience is as positive as mine!

                Take care friend 😊

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    46·
    11 hours ago

    And Mastodon is decentralized in a way that makes it so people don’t want to join the platform, so… To BlueSky we go!

    If things were decentralized in similar way to crypto it would be way better for user adoption. The server side stuff is decentralized separately from the stuff users interacts with, so users can use a bunch of different websites to interact with the server side stuff, but they’re always using the same credentials no matter the website they use and no matter the website they can interact with everything that ever happened on the servers, no one has the power to prevent users from seeing some of the transactions that happened (no admins) because the website they use are just a front used to simplify interaction with the servers.