• Glasgow
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        He’s already said he’s thinking of using the insurrection act to invoke martial law within the next 90 days.

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        Birthing pains, bro. Birthing pains.

        Positive change doesn’t come without sacrifice.

        If you wanna make an omelette, some people gotta die.

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        I can’t stand comments like this. You act like people aren’t going to be hurt and die without civil unrest.

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        I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo

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          Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn’t a joke, whether it’s warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.

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              Since you’re wondering aloud –

              Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.

              It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.

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                It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.

                This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.

                They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.

                We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?

                edit to add a word

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                    One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.

                    I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.