White House orders pause on all federal grants and loans, impacting trillions of dollars in aid. Impact on Social Security and Medicare benefits excluded.
I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo
Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn’t a joke, whether it’s warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.
Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.
It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.
It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.
This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.
They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.
We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?
One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.
I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.
I’ll be sure to keep your “opportunity” and “timing” in mind while my friends are being deported and my siblings are being rounded up into trans camps.
“I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’"
Martin Luther King, Jr, Letter from a Birmingham Jail, April 1963
I can’t stand comments like this. You act like civil unrest won’t get people hurt, or maybe even killed.
Birthing pains, bro. Birthing pains.
Positive change doesn’t come without sacrifice.
If you wanna make an omelette, some people gotta die.
Easy to say that on the internet. I don’t see anybody picking up their pitch forks to stop this.
Maybe crack a history book sometime and check out how we got all the nice freedoms we have now 😂
The history books for this haven’t been written…
History tends to repeat itself. And clearly we haven’t learned any lessons, so it’s gonna repeat itself again.
German history 1933-1945.
Uh… have you been living under a rock? There have been multiple assassination attempts recently, one successful.
One successful? What are you talking about, the shooter in the first one ended up dead.
They didn’t even catch him:
Fair i guess. I assumed you were talking about the president.
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I can’t stand comments like this. You act like people aren’t going to be hurt and die without civil unrest.
I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo
Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn’t a joke, whether it’s warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.
Agreed. I took it as gallows humor. But who knows. We are fucked right now.
Since you’re wondering aloud –
Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.
It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.
It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.
This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.
They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.
We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?
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Lay down and give up if you want to.
One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.
I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.
I’ll be sure to keep your “opportunity” and “timing” in mind while my friends are being deported and my siblings are being rounded up into trans camps.
I understand where you might have gotten that idea. I’ll clarify.
We’re waiting for a shoe to drop. While it won’t be good when that shoe drops, there will still be a certain sense of relief when it does.
Getting back to what started this thread:
Which one of the actions of this president will finally be the one to get the public to turn against fascism? This one? Please? Don’t tease me.
We are well past the point of shit being scary for a lot of people.
Rights are written in blood.