Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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    Congrats leftists! You solved Palestine! We just won’t have one!

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      Seems odd to blame leftists instead of the people supporting, supplying, and carrying out the genocide.

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        As leftists like to say to justify their one-sided attacks against Democrats: “Republicans are going to Republican”.

        Leftists know this and still decided to do all they can to make sure they give the reins of power to Republicans yet again to “punish” Democrats when all their privileged white asses are doing is punishing lgbtq, poc, and now Palestinians despite their use of their issue to justify not voting Democrat.

        But no war but class war right?

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          If you want to enter a house, do you use the door or the brick wall? In this scenario, the republicans are the brick wall and the democrats are the door. In theory, the door is more willing to allow entrance. How you’re framing this is that using the door is an attack on the door. This is the same attitude conservatives use when people critique the US where they’ll respond with “America: love it or leave it”.

          As for punishing minorities, I’d take democrats more seriously about their claims of standing up for minorities if they weren’t so quick to ignore them or throw them under the bus. It was Palestinians and others in Arab communities who were driving the uncommitted movement. It was a movement that simply asked that people mark uncommitted during the primaries where Biden was running practically unopposed. This is the lightest of resistance ever, did not threaten the presidential election, and clearly delivered the message that people were displeased with Biden. What did democrats do in response? Screamed at the minorities and preemptively blamed them for sowing division and continued pushing Biden until his debate performance made it apparent to even party diehards that Biden was not going to win. However, the party diehards still wanted to continue his policies, so they saddled Harris with the burden of continuing his garbage policies. Democrats simply did not listen to voter concerns during the election.

          You’re saying that Palestinians are “now” being punished, but this only shows your ignorance of over a year of intensified genocide and the decades-long campaign of ethnic cleansing Palestinians have had to endure with the support of both US parties. It’s less that Palestinians are “now” being punished and more like democrats are blaming everyone but themselves like they always do, even though they had the power to make a difference. Curiously, they did not use that power. I would be interested in your explanation for why democrats chose not to.

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        Correct they’re not really leftists. Tankies who consumed too much Zionist and Russian propaganda.

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      The number of people trying to argue that not voting was legitmate is baffling.

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      From what I gather, you’re making the insinuation that the people who refused to vote for Kamala due to her (and Biden’s) support of Israel are responsible for Trump and his heavy-handed approach.

      I’d retort by stating that Israel has killed near 100k Palestinians and reduced most of the territory to rubble all while Biden’s administration had been sending bombs, guns, tanks, missiles, and money.

      The main difference between Trump and Biden on this issue is how loud and open they are about it.

      Is there a difference between discretely supporting apartheid or openly supporting apartheid? Probably, in an intellectual sense. But what difference does it make to the tens of thousands of Gazan widows?

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        We won’t get to know now. Now we get exactly what everyone told you about in the months leading up to November.

        Where is Jill stein?

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          He did exactly the same as I would expect from Biden or kamala. Disrespect for Palestinians is bipartisan this past election had no bearing on the issue

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            Biden or Harris would have suggested ethnic cleansing as a solution? Fucking hell .ml users are just as deluded as MAGAts.

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        They weren’t going to put immigrants in camps. I as a gay man didn’t have to worry about the sane had Harris won.

        But at least some Marxists have a sense of moral superiority

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          Are you kidding me? You don’t see Democrats all over this thread throwing their moral superiority in our faces?

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            The democrats at least voted for the candidate that was not promoting fascism. Those that withheld their votes to retain a sense of moral purity have a role in Trump’s victory that those who voted against Trump do not share.

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              I don’t owe Democrats my vote. They have to earn it. Apparently, those voters did not think that Harris deserved their votes.

              Now, I do think that you should vote in every election. There were multiple candidates from alternative parties that were against the genocide. If those candidates had gotten the votes instead, that could’ve really made a difference.

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                Ok so this is what Im talking about when I say that “at least when Im being taken to a death-camp you can tell yourself you did the thing that agreed with your morals”

                And this is why so many leftists are not actual allies of the LGBTQIA+ community because when their idealism is faced with reality they choose to sacrifice the vulnerable populations for their idealism.

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          Every single spared life, every single stab at a better life would have been an improvement

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            Biden/Harris wouldn’t have spared any lives, they’ve been shipping bombs non-stop to extinguish palestinian life for 15 months

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      Yes because under Biden the thing was thriving… America lesser evil political system is making you so braindead it is crazy

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        So is your solution to give the country to the right and hope for revolution? Super cool for all the people here and abroad who have to suffer under revved up American fascism, including Gaza. Counting on that very slow train maybe pulling into the station seems like a solid plan.

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          I’m just saying blaming the voter for not voting instead of the political offer or the people in power and system is braindead

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            Fuck that. You don’t get to blame the DNC or Biden or Harris for a choice that YOU made. Every single person who was eligible to vote this election was alive to see Trump’s last term. The vast majority had the ability to read Project 2025. If you didn’t know exactly what not voting was going to get us, that’s your fault.

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              I didn’t make any choice I’m French lol. I’m just explaining to you how it works, you can keep blaming ppl for not voting rather than politics for not having actual program that make people vote for them. That way you make sure to not hold politics accountable after all they can do whatever they want and do nothing as long as the guy in front of them say worse shit. Just look where you went until now

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            No, it’s brain dead to think you can oppose a corrupt entrenched power structure by taking your ball and going home. Elections alone won’t fix shit. Sitting them out to let in MAGA fascism definitely isn’t going to do it. Change takes decades, but if you give power to the people who will oppress harder and more readily, you are just ensuring more people get hurt in the process. The democrats at least bow to pressure some. Trump wants to shoot protestors and made sure to appoint people down with that. So yeah, I’m blaming really naive voters along with blaming our corrupt system not offering better options. Hate to tell you, but life is more nuanced than straight good and evil.

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              You’re blaming voter for not voting one for one of the political parties that is precisely the corrupt entrenched power structure you are mentionning … Then stating election don’t fix shit but still blaming ppl for not voting for Democrat ?