part of the purpose of this war is for benjamin netenyahu to have the pretenses he needs to do what he’s wanted since 2021: to subvert the will of his people and establish himself as dictator. until peace terms are reached, he will retain special wartime military powers, and if you think he’s going to restore power you haven’t been paying attention to who he is or how israel operates. mark my words, october 7th is when all pretenses of the israeli democracy you’re describing eroded entirely.
yes. he has support for war and genocide but not his general rule. the war is a pretense for him to cease power. then longer the mass killings go and the less accountability in the upper echelons of other governments, the less likely he is to face consequences for a coup to avoid any accountability for his own corruption. the israeli people remind me a lot of russians and us citizens in this regard, turning to their big corrupt daddy to save them from the problems manufactured by their big corrupt daddy because their view of the world is too narrow to see the bigger picture that once an ethnic cleansing reaches its end, it just doesn’t. there’s always some next group to cleanse. today it’s Uyghurs, Rohingens, Ukrainians, Palestinians, Masalit, and Congolese. Tomorrow it’s Latinos, Native Americans, Georgians, trans kids, and African Americans. The day after that it’s Jews, Koreans, women who talk, subcontinental Indians, and men who seem a little too in touch with their emotions.
It’s disgusting that you’d equivocate long since discredited atrocity propaganda like the “Uyghur genocide” narrative, which even the western media abandoned years ago, has failed to produce any documentary evidence, or even a single confirmed death, in over a decade, and for which the only primary sources are themselves rabid supporters of Israels genocide, with the undeniable mass carnage we’ve had directly live streamed to us, while it’s perpetrators have openly stated their intentions.
And while Ukrainians are the victims of a brutal war of aggression, it is no more a genocide than the invasion of Iraq.
This is why Westerners are always so docile about allowing their governments to commit unspeakable acts: because their first instinct when there own governments do it is to desperately try to find any way to justify saying “well everyone else is doing it too”
Don’t take this badly, but that’s tribalism in general, which is not at all specific to “Westerners”.
I don’t disagree with the rest of what you said, but your point about “Westerners” is really just you showing your prejudices, is a pretty good indication that you too are tribalist, just aligned with a different “tribe” and weakens your argument because it makes it seem like it’s just the defense of a different side (the same thing you accuse “Westerners” of doing) instead of being a side-agnosting principled take and critique of a certain style of Propaganda common in the Western Mainstream Media (especially American).
See? Exactly what I was talking about; when faced with an accusation against them that they can’t deny, Westerners reflexively jump to “But everyone does it!”
You’re the one making claims about entire groups of people, which means you think “they’re all the same”, which makes you a Racist just as much as the people who say Chinese are this, Arabs are that or Black are thus.
I happen to agree with your points and happen to think most Western societies are bullshit and controlled by manipulators and hypocrites, but, damn, you had to go full on racist and claim it was an inherent issue of everybody born in the West.
Then you doubled down on Racism 101 by claiming that my point on YOUR behaviour was me doing some kind of race defense and attacking “everybody” - exactly how racists react to personal criticism if they think it comes from somebody of a different ethnicity (they Project their own drives and motivations onto the argument of the other person so in their Racist mind the point made by the other person must be some kind of Race-defense reaction because that’s exactly what they themselves would do).
You have outted yourself as a racist, not just a mild one but a full-blown one, with the same kind of mindset and drive for making those arguments as the racists in the West have for theirs.
It’s a shame because you had a good point even if driven to make it by racial prejudice.
Your race-generalizing just confirms my point that you’re nothing more than Racist and the fact you deployed it against me shows you’re also intellectually challenged in addition to being a Racist since I was actually agreeing with most of your points.
Only a total idiot, extreme Racist or both would not just persist but actually double-down twice on the Racism when face with somebody agreeing with them in overall and only disagreeing with the racist generalization part.
Yeah you’re going to need really stellar sources to back up a claim that is this far from the common position which is that he needs to keep the war going to avoid sentencing in the charges he was found guilty of just before the war started.
part of the purpose of this war is for benjamin netenyahu to have the pretenses he needs to do what he’s wanted since 2021: to subvert the will of his people and establish himself as dictator. until peace terms are reached, he will retain special wartime military powers, and if you think he’s going to restore power you haven’t been paying attention to who he is or how israel operates. mark my words, october 7th is when all pretenses of the israeli democracy you’re describing eroded entirely.
Israels genocide has overwhelming domestic support. He’s not subverting the will of the people, he’s following it.
yes. he has support for war and genocide but not his general rule. the war is a pretense for him to cease power. then longer the mass killings go and the less accountability in the upper echelons of other governments, the less likely he is to face consequences for a coup to avoid any accountability for his own corruption. the israeli people remind me a lot of russians and us citizens in this regard, turning to their big corrupt daddy to save them from the problems manufactured by their big corrupt daddy because their view of the world is too narrow to see the bigger picture that once an ethnic cleansing reaches its end, it just doesn’t. there’s always some next group to cleanse. today it’s Uyghurs, Rohingens, Ukrainians, Palestinians, Masalit, and Congolese. Tomorrow it’s Latinos, Native Americans, Georgians, trans kids, and African Americans. The day after that it’s Jews, Koreans, women who talk, subcontinental Indians, and men who seem a little too in touch with their emotions.
It’s disgusting that you’d equivocate long since discredited atrocity propaganda like the “Uyghur genocide” narrative, which even the western media abandoned years ago, has failed to produce any documentary evidence, or even a single confirmed death, in over a decade, and for which the only primary sources are themselves rabid supporters of Israels genocide, with the undeniable mass carnage we’ve had directly live streamed to us, while it’s perpetrators have openly stated their intentions.
And while Ukrainians are the victims of a brutal war of aggression, it is no more a genocide than the invasion of Iraq.
This is why Westerners are always so docile about allowing their governments to commit unspeakable acts: because their first instinct when there own governments do it is to desperately try to find any way to justify saying “well everyone else is doing it too”
Don’t take this badly, but that’s tribalism in general, which is not at all specific to “Westerners”.
I don’t disagree with the rest of what you said, but your point about “Westerners” is really just you showing your prejudices, is a pretty good indication that you too are tribalist, just aligned with a different “tribe” and weakens your argument because it makes it seem like it’s just the defense of a different side (the same thing you accuse “Westerners” of doing) instead of being a side-agnosting principled take and critique of a certain style of Propaganda common in the Western Mainstream Media (especially American).
See? Exactly what I was talking about; when faced with an accusation against them that they can’t deny, Westerners reflexively jump to “But everyone does it!”
My point is about you, not “everybody”.
You’re the one making claims about entire groups of people, which means you think “they’re all the same”, which makes you a Racist just as much as the people who say Chinese are this, Arabs are that or Black are thus.
I happen to agree with your points and happen to think most Western societies are bullshit and controlled by manipulators and hypocrites, but, damn, you had to go full on racist and claim it was an inherent issue of everybody born in the West.
Then you doubled down on Racism 101 by claiming that my point on YOUR behaviour was me doing some kind of race defense and attacking “everybody” - exactly how racists react to personal criticism if they think it comes from somebody of a different ethnicity (they Project their own drives and motivations onto the argument of the other person so in their Racist mind the point made by the other person must be some kind of Race-defense reaction because that’s exactly what they themselves would do).
You have outted yourself as a racist, not just a mild one but a full-blown one, with the same kind of mindset and drive for making those arguments as the racists in the West have for theirs.
It’s a shame because you had a good point even if driven to make it by racial prejudice.
Bahahah. Fucking hell. Genocide supporting Westerners are a parody of themselves. Anyway, not reading the rest of your absurd screed.
Your race-generalizing just confirms my point that you’re nothing more than Racist and the fact you deployed it against me shows you’re also intellectually challenged in addition to being a Racist since I was actually agreeing with most of your points.
Only a total idiot, extreme Racist or both would not just persist but actually double-down twice on the Racism when face with somebody agreeing with them in overall and only disagreeing with the racist generalization part.
Yeah you’re going to need really stellar sources to back up a claim that is this far from the common position which is that he needs to keep the war going to avoid sentencing in the charges he was found guilty of just before the war started.