What if someone in a government agency just started printing birth certificates and social security cards for everyone? How would anyone know the difference? Like fake IDs on a mass scale.
Oh, I thought you were pointing out that funding the process so they can get their documents would be the solution, which is true. The whole ‘border crisis’ is a manufactured problem caused by defunding the immigration process, especially for asylum seekers, and capping the number that can immigrate to a ridiculously low number.
The solution is improving the process so they can be documented.
Yeah, but in lieu of that, printer go brrrrrrr
Given how the US is detaching itself from the concepts of truth or facts or rules, why not. “Hey is your ID fake”? “Fuck you police officer”. “My bad, have a nice day sir”
When they talk about illegal immigrants they actually mean brown people.
They don’t care about documents. Real or fake.
“Today, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided a local establishment in the City of Newark, detaining undocumented residents as well as citizens, without producing a warrant. One of the detainees is a U.S. military veteran who suffered the indignity of having the legitimacy of his military documentation questioned,”
Audit trails are a thing.
They’ll come to an agreement to keep undocumented immigrants real fast once they learn that communities will suffer a large tax shortage and labor shortage without them.
Bad part about this is the damage will have already been done by the time they realize it.
They will just start mass incarcerations and backstop everything with slave labour. With the side effect of squashing wages even further.
After the leopards are done eating their faces.
One can only assume
The biggest issue is that the birth certificate is typically done at a very local level, usually the county, and not anyone can file one. It’s often the case that a particular person at a hospital or a registered midwife needs to file the application. Parents can report a live birth outside of an institution but you need to physically go to a courthouse with the baby.
A different group of people is responsible for social security cards.If one county clerk files a huge number of birth certificates and uses them to back social security card requests, it’ll be noticed.
There’s always a way around the paper trail, usually by just making sure no one bothers to look at it, but they all involve adding more people to the conspiracy, which adds more risk.
No one will notice that one doctor delivered 500 babies in one day if no one looks at the paperwork, but each person involved increases the likelihood of a mistake causing people to look, which almost certainly will cause those details to be noticed.It’s similar to how people do a huge amount of any fraud, and then once a thread of detail gets noticed the entire thing is unraveled.
Your best bet is to minimize the number of forged documents. I would predict that a single person could most easily get a non-citizen us national passport for someone to assume an American somoan identity. Since there’s comparatively few non-citizen us nationals, a passport is the federally preferred method of identification. Since the territory is an edge case, there’s more room for slipups, and since you’re not posing as a citizen, you have an excuse not to have some records.
A county administrator could go rogue and start issuing birth certificates to random adults, but they’d quickly be found out. Then it’s easy to spot the fakes like “All Hazard County birth certs issued between 2025-04-01 and 2025-04-20 are sus.“
How would they be found out, though? When was the last time someone asked for your birth certificate?
so now I can get 7 difierent names with different birthdates. Then I use one to do some fraud under a new name. when the police investigate I have an id of someone else and can throw the old name away.
That’s always been a possibility.
That is also true
Why would the government serving the rich help the migrant worker obtain stronger bargaining position?
Sometimes it feels like people don’t understand these basic concepts.
Migrant labour is used to suppress domestic wages.
H1b for white collar and illegals for blue collar and farm. The moment you give either of them same legal standing as the indigenous population, they will ask for market rate. Literally defeats the purpose of importing them.
Work visas aren’t exactly the same as “the indigenous populations”.
Exactly, work visa give employer more bargaining power over the wage slave. That’s the key feature of the system.
But also keeps them from being deported.
