cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25049986

Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Mariam Barghouti
Jan 21, 2025

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“Israel launched a major military operation on Jenin in the occupied West Bank on Tuesday, raiding the city with troops, military vehicles, and bulldozers backed by airstrikes, drones, and Apache helicopters. At least nine Palestinians have been killed and more than 40 wounded in the ongoing operation, according to the Ramallah-based Palestinian health ministry, which Israel has dubbed “Operation Iron Wall.””

  • dx1
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    6 hours ago

    Experts in international law, the ICC, correctly blame Israel, not Biden.

    The link you put does not excuse Biden. Why lie?

    Meanwhile, back in reality:

    https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/amnesty-international-warns-of-u-s-complicity-in-war-crimes-in-gaza/

    https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/rights-lawyers-release-legal-analysis-us-complicity-israel-s

    The reason I say “naive” is that Biden persists in this mentality that Israel is just some poor victim surrounded by hostile Arab states and Israel hasn’t been a legit victim since… what? The 1972 Olympics?

    Please study the Nakba, you’re not just embarrassing yourself but whitewashing a history of genocide.

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      Show me where the ICC charged Biden the way they did Netanyahu or Putin, it’s cool. I can wait.

      In fact, show me which of the 5 definitions of Genocide Biden meets under article II of the UN charter.

      Pro tip - You can’t, because they didn’t.

      I’m all for blaming Israel for the Genocide, they are 100% doing it and will not stop unless someone invades and makes them stop.

      That doesn’t mean Biden was doing it.

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        4 hours ago

        The absence of legal proceedings against someone for a crime does not mean they didn’t commit the crime. Are you serious?

        In fact, show me which of the 5 definitions of Genocide Biden meets under article II of the UN charter.

        Another red flag, you’re confusing the UN Charter with the UN Genocide Convention, which is what has an “Article II” that defines genocide. Imagine making these kinds of mistakes and posting publicly with the kind of confidence you have. What a dick.

        Re: the UN Genocide Convention (not the UN Charter), if you bothered to read Article THREE, it outlines conspiracy to commit genocide as a crime independent of genocide itself, as well as direct and public incitement to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide. By any sane metric he’s guilty of multiple of these - even if we ignore the diplomatic, logistical, military, and economic support Biden gave to “Israel” for its genocide, he is also guilty of spreading genocidal incitement propaganda, namely atrocity propaganda about Oct. 7 meant to dehumanize Palestinians.

        The ICC, by the way, does not enforce the UN Genocide Convention - rather, the ICJ, a different body, would issue a ruling, if a lawsuit was brought against a state party by another state party, and the UN Security Council - which the US has veto power over - would decide on any enforcement of that ruling.

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          4 hours ago

          No, I’m saying when the ICC went to lay blame, they correctly blamed Israel, NOT Biden.

          They had every opportunity to charge Biden. Clearly they aren’t shy about charging major players after charging Putin.

          They correctly blame Netanyahu. At no point has Biden ever said “Sure, please, kill as many Palestinians as you want” because that was never the purpose of the aid sent to Israel.

          It’s all cited in the thread. Biden supports the defense of Israel, not their offensive actions. The genocide is not defense.

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            Sorry, I really have a thing about not having endless circular arguments with some asshole who’s completely wrong and incapable of admitting it. Tbph you should relinquish your control of any community you mod because your faculties for judgment are just about nonexistent.