• PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
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    14 hours ago

    If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor” with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.

    If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you’re a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.

    If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you’re a rube.

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      If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor”

      I won’t argue against that.

      with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.

      This part is illogical though. Claiming that due to a future event, we went back in time to block/and-or control a message makes no sense. This was my entire point. They are blocking it for many reasons and have been for years, but claiming the whole reason they spent years attempting to block it because of a single event that happened years later makes no sense.

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        single event that happened years later makes no sense.

        The genocide of palestinians didn’t begin in 2022. And the above commenter is correct, the US wants full control of its social media in order to spread pro-US foreign policy views, and tiktok is a threat to that.

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          12 hours ago

          The genocide of palestinians didn’t begin in 2022

          Never said it did. I did say/indicate that it was never a social/political issue until 2023. Things can happen for a long time, but take a sudden change to make it a big issue.

          In fact, please, I would love to see anything political about Israel/Palestine in US politics/policy attempting/intended to make Israel look better on regards to Palestine (as is implied in the article) that predates Oct 2023. As you’ve, and others, have pointed out (I already knew, since it dates to biblical times), that it’s been an issue for so long, then this should be simple. It keeps trying to be pointed out that the Oct 2023 event seemed to mean nothing about it, so you or anyone else should have no problems with this.

          Bonus points for showing how it relates to Tiktok before that date too, which again with everyone’s insistence about it, should be no problems at all.

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        7 hours ago

        Claiming that due to a future event

        You misunderstand, I am saying that the original idea can be about inability to control. Then seeing anti isreal sentiment on tiktok, and you can say “see we were right, this is what we knew would happen”.

        Or in other words, congress doesnt exist in a time void, they have the ability to predict future outcomes and legislate against them. You dont have to know isreal palastine is going to be the new thing, but you know that there will be a next thing and 100% it will play poorly if you cant control the narrative (i.e. lie to people)