i wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people

op admits it was a joke originally, but says after witnessing the contempt of the american people for gaza, is sad to say his joke was correct (unless i’m misreading this)

the user posting_forever writes “yeah well welcome to what happens when your country bombs and threatens half of the earth. feels pretty shitty, huh?”

barbarism critic continues their thread “If you have posted this as a joke that’s one thing, but there’s wayyyy too much of this sentiment expressed sincerely on here and as a signifier of being the “most radical”. It is not! It is poorly disguised misanthropy and nihilism!”

one person say that barbarism critic is “the brianna wu of 2025. Remember kids I called it”

i guess there is some very real perceived material interests of americans to continue the genocide in palestine, like the christian zionists, or the liberals who want to continue the american dominance via global hegemony, and the labor aristocrats in america who want the treats.

i was listening to rev left radio “The Long Transition Towards Socialism and the End of Capitalism” with Torkil Lauesen and, probably gonna butcher it - but my understanding is that as we enter a multipolar world, the americans will not be able to blatantly exploit the over-exploited nations (global south) leading to increasingly deteriorating conditions in the imperial core, which will set the grounds very clearly between socialism and barbarism?

and we are to organize and help alleviate the woes of the people which also serve as a way of building relations that lead to building power via organizations.

(iirc the bolsheviks has above ground orgs and underground orgs for the law breaking stuff)

eh i dunno just over analyzing what do you peeps think.

  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.netEnglish
    30·
    17 hours ago

    Not American, but from a western imperialist nation with a lot of similar incentives so I still relate to this a lot and spent a fair amount of time thinking about it.

    Whenever I read public discourse I can’t help but think my country is filled with insufferable, ignorant, smug selfish pricks who couldn’t care less about other people’s suffering. However, maybe this is a hot take, but does it really matter? Realistically you’re never gonna make a difference anywhere else in the world. The people around you are what you have to work with, it’s where you have to find like-minded people and organize and try to change minds and hopefully find friends and connections. You can go around and wish suffering on the people around you instead, but that’s not going to achieve anything other than make people creeped out and not want to be around you.

    It’s also worth keeping in mind that violent, reactionary brainrot exists everywhere, and has plenty of political power most places. Western chauvinism is just the most uniquely destructive kind. You’re probaly not going to be happy with the general population no matter where you go.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      20·
      15 hours ago

      I can’t help but think my country is filled with insufferable, ignorant, smug selfish pricks who couldn’t care less about other people’s suffering.

      My true horror at this feeling is knowing that I used to be like them, which implies even more horrifyingly that I have some kind of duty to help them be more like me.