• hakase@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    You’ve still failed to show that:

    a) all billionaires are “regular idiots”

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    b) that all billionaires have necessarily “won the birth lottery” (in addition to not having defined the term in a way that would exclude the vast majority of the developed world, in which case the claim is near-vacuous)

    All you’ve managed to show is that zip codes are correlated with financial success in general (nothing about billionaires here), and that luck plays a huge factor in success as well, which may explain why an idiot like Musk can become a billionaire, but doesn’t prove that all billionaires are “regular idiots who won the birth lottery”.

    If you truly believe that, then what are your thoughts on, for example, Oprah, J.K. Rowling, Do Won Chang, Leonardo del Vecchio, Kenny Troutt, Francois Pinault, etc.?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          The fact that you’re calling a video showing that Gates built an empire using nepotism to get effectively unlimited resources from IBM non sequitur shows that you’re intellectually dishonest and there’s no point continuing this discussion. Bye.

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            1 year ago

            Yet again, Bill Gates is almost completely irrelevant to this conversation. He’s just one billionaire among hundreds, and was one of the examples I happened to jump to first. In hindsight, I likely should have avoided an individual that would trigger you so much.

            You’ve claimed that billionaires are just regular idiots who won the birth lottery. I’ve demonstrated that you haven’t show that this is the case. Not even close.

            To do so would require showing that each billionaire a) is an idiot, and b) has won the genetic lottery. You’ve ignored all of the other billionaires I’ve brought into the discussion, likely intentionally because they don’t conform to your requirements.

            That already makes me skeptical of your intellectual honesty, but I’ll reserve judgment until I see your reply (or lack thereof) to this comment.

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              1 year ago

              Seems to me that you’re the one triggered here. You gave couple of examples that I demonstrated to be false. I linked you a study showing that luck is the major factor as opposed to personal qualities, and another showing that in fact birth place is a good predictor of success. Literally everything you’ve claimed is demonstrably false. Based on your comments it’s evident that you don’t understand how statistics work. The fact that you just keep replying with smug and vapid comments is just a cherry on top.

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                To prove your claim that “billionaires are just regular idiots who won the birth lottery”, you would have to go billionaire by billionaire and show that all of them conform to these assertions. I’ve given a decent number of examples for whom this would be quite difficult.

                You have failed to do so, and instead have not only misconstrued two examples out of hundreds as representative samples, but have the audacity to claim that I’m the one who doesn’t understand statistics.

                I’ve pointed this out to you multiple times, and you’ve dodged the point so many times that at this point it’s clear that you have no intention of participating in this conversation in good faith.

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                  1 year ago

                  Thanks for once again confirming that you don’t understand the concept of statistics.