Keeping it at bay? The fuck are you smoking
We’re never going to badger the current DNC corporate shills into working for the people… They’ll need to be replaced before we can hope to stop the ratchet effect and start making real change
I’m sold. Let’s do it.
First step is making a place everyone can access and start collecting information… Any idea how to do that? I’m afraid I’m mostly tech illiterate
2nd step: we need to map out who actually gets to vote for DNC leadership/membership
It’s more important to just build community. It will be a slow waking up for everyone to realize elections are no longer free and fair. A strong community will form a net to catch all these people when they finally do come around.
We built a strong community for/with Bernie… While we had a mission and leadership we got things done too, but as soon as the campaign ended and there was no more guidance, the community basically disintegrated… Community needs a plan and a mission…a mutual goal to work towards as a team… Plan the strategy and pass out roles and people will get on board and join the “community”
How the hell is the first step not changing how we vote so people can vote outside the two party system and still have their votes counted against republicans?
There’s a lot of green between today and sweeping election reform that defeats the duopoly. It’s certainly a step, but it requires many preceding steps to get to a point where that’s achievable.
Gotta get people into a position where they can make that change happen. Right now the Dems block such people from getting to such positions. Gotta replace the gate keepers with progressives or we’ll never get progressives into position to make changes.
The DNC needs the far right. Without it, their candidates would have to run on actual positions, rather than just “Vote for us because we’re not Republicans.”
That’s not really fair. Democrats voting records and policy agenda are always on point. The fact they can’t win elections to ensure their agenda is the problem.
Democrats voting records and policy agenda are always on point
Lol. LMAO, even.
Show me some democrat policy where they weren’t reaching across the isle that you fundamentally disagree with.
Nah
My point was that their voting record is absolutely not as good as you claimed it to be
What they say they’re for is entirely irrelevant of they don’t actually back it up with their actions
It’s not, you can look at the voting record. I’m pleading with you. Youve swallowed a load of bunk.
It’s not, you can look at the voting record.
It’s not what? This reads like you agree with me
pleading with you. You’ve swallowed a load of bunk.
You have no idea what my actual beliefs might be, I’ve only pointed out that your point was silly
Too many people on the left have the attitude of “no one likes him because he has no friends” – too stupid to see their own opinion is why the situation exists.
Coupled with being unable to accept they are ever wrong and the blindness to progress that has occurred. The left is its own worst enemy. The right hasn’t had to try painting us as ineffective in decades, we do it better to ourselves.
The DNC hires the same consultants for running campaigns that the RNC use so naturally they will all veer right. The DNC has stopped trying to represent the people and wants to get their turn at the money funnel.
Go listen to the Harris campaign featured on pod save america. These losers think they made the right moves, every time, and have no vision for the future that does not acquest to the right wing agenda.
Dems have been right of center for my entire life. It’s only because we have such far-right propaganda about socialism and such in schools that this seems normal.
Edit: when I made some comment / argument on a position in debate class when I was 15yo, the teacher whispered “socialist” to the class. I didn’t even know what that meant. Whatever I said, it was sure to be about helping people and making the world more fair to end up with that comment.
As an outsider, I’d like to remind you 'muricans that you don’t have a democracy, much less a democratic party. You have two big groups that are kept afloat by big money in need of “favors”
Keeping at bay? The Republicans have the DNC by the throat right now.
I don’t think so. If the DNC wants, they could easily win but they won’t try.
“We could easily win but we don’t want to for some reason”
:/
“For some reason”
pockets lined with benjamins
Lawmakers should be prohibited from having a net worth larger then the median house hold and required to log and post working hours, which should match the 40 hour work week the rest of us have to clock. These fucker’s have it too easy.
Well I’m surprised you aren’t aware that that “some reason” is politicians are cautious not to slight their wealthy backers.
“In my view, we need a strong Republican Party. We need a Republican Party that’s united.” - Joe Biden
Joe Biden, Primary Donald Trump As A Republican - SOME MORE NEWS (2019)
This is politician-talk for “get your fucking shit together, you’re embarrassing everyone”.
Well, yeah…
The only chance an unpopular neoliberal has of being president, is the threat that they’re the only other option to Republicans.
Otherwise they’d never get any votes.
So neoliberals want Republicans to be the biggest threat possible.
The context for that quote was a 2011 interview. The Obama administration was having trouble working with the Republicans because the Tea Party movement had gotten a lot of firebrands elected where working together with Democrats to effectively govern was unthinkable. The Republican House leadership since then has been weak, which has led to multiple government shutdowns.
Many layers to Dark Brandon /s
“Ummmmm you’re kidding right? Our owners would never allow that. I was thinking more like swoop in and openly become the new right! Nows our chance to take the economic left mask off and embrace our neoliberalism!”
Similar to how Netanyahu’s faction in Israel kept funding Hamas to justify their objectives on control of the state.
They go to the same parties organised by the same billionaires and their kids go to the same schools and marry each other.
So what are governments in “socialist” societies?
I feel like the LotR “Cast it into the fire!” meme would also work, where the ring is “Rich People Money”
We absolutely need to take advantage of the in-fighting, the DNC won’t do it, but… we can get a Rich Vs. Poor narrative going…
Haha, no we can’t. People enjoy the culture war way, way too much. Reddit and Lemmy are living proof. I see far more left vs right content than rich vs poor on here.
What is your definition of left-vs-right when rich-vs-poor is an explicitly left-wing framing? Are you so caught up in the culture wars to think left-vs-right is exclusively cultural?
We absolutely can
Yeah the American flavor of left actually enables facism. Sadly it’s the same thing you see in places like Germany, UK, Canada, and France. France is relatively better.
