• مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    Over the past 10 years I worked in all kinds of tech companies in the US Northeast. All were staffed by some combo of Chinese and Indians. I don’t think price is the only motive, in fact every company I interviewed for prefer citizens over work visas. I could be wrong but the needed skills aren’t available and that’s the major motive behind it.

    It is an education output problem at its root. China and India produce lots more scientists and engineers. Even US universities graduate a lot of Chinese and Indian students.

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      That’s the point. Governments from the rest of the world used their taxpayers’ money to raise their kids for 20-30 years only for them to come to work for America. The developing world literally worked their asses off to subsidize the cost of creating new labor for the US empire.

      It’s been an exceptional deal for the American capitalists who get them at virtually no cost.

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      I’ve been reading Settlers (albeit I just started it) and this seems to me that this is a core feature of the US.

      Since before the US was an independent colony, there has been a reliance on imported labor (or labor of those who were here before us). From the indigenous people they enslaved, to importing slave labor from Africa.

      Indentured servitude from Europe was only seen as a short misery from the settlers, and even that dropped rapidly when importing slave labor from Africa became cheaper.

      The culture war that Nick Fuentes and any of these other groypers want to believe exists doesn’t. Capital doesn’t care about keeping jobs in the US, and would replace them with an immigrant without second thought if it saved them money.

      I also feel that education in the US has been plummeting. Our universities are regarded as the most desirable to graduate from, but a majority of our schools provide very little practical education.

      I went to a state college over the past decade and it was the top Computer Science university in my state. Most of the classes provided zero enrichment, and the ones that would have provided enrichment, were ridden with cheaters outsourcing their work on Fiverr to someone in the global south.

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      I think that was the case for a little bit, but I don’t think it is right now. There have been lots of layoffs, and lots of things like layoffs masquerading as RTO mandates. There’s a ton of tech workers out there looking, and it’s taking longer than ever for them to find jobs.

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      I’m of very mixed feelings on this. On one hand, yeah it makes sense that American neoliberalism’s starving of public education plus the administratium bloat in higher education leads to a lack of tech graduates. On the other hand, I hear all the time from tech graduates that they can’t get a job, no one will hire them. So like, even if there is some truth to it, they’d still be pulling H1-B workers as they can hold the deportation threat over them.

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        I’ve said it IRL and now I’ll say it here. Everything makes more sense when you literally view the rich as children.

        • They refuse to put us to work just like how a child refuses to eat his vegetables and claims “I’m a picky eater.” like it’s a badge of honor. But then demand to eat out despite the fact there’s food at home

        • The whole climate crisis can be summed up as “but I DUN WANNA clean up after myself!”.

        • entitled “it’s a free country I can do what I want” attitude no matter who gets hurt in the process.