How can you see that? I was really liking Makan’s effort to generate weekly conversation, then saw yesterday they were banned and had to look back in their history to find this whole thread. I’ve got no dog in this fight as I’m stuck in a region where our only option is a practically defunct DSA chapter so was just floating through the lefty void.
I also like Makan, and think they have great contributions.
I’m not an admin, and can’t speak for them. I think there’s something to the temp ban, though. Every party in the U$ is bad in some way, and it’s poor form not to recognize that in some way.
If Makan had just said, “yeah, they’re flawed but they’re the only party around me. I like the work we do here”, that wouldn’t have been a problem.
Just about every criticism that was put forward of CPUSA was warranted (if kind of piled on, and not really relevant to the thread).
Thanks for the link. I admit I’m a fairly quiet DSA member in my area but we def have our flaws too. I am on the mailing list for CPUSA and was looking into starting up a chapter in my area but I’m not sure if the effort that would be needed to put into it would be worth it since it’s a Republican stronghold and even the Dem presence is shit here.
A temporary ban is analogous to bourgeois criminal punishment, governed by an abstract form of equivalent exchange. In theory and in practice, repressive mechanisms have proven to be counterintuitive, as in the present case. Here is Makan, who’s an active contributor to the platform, causing heated arguments in the matrix chatroom.
Idk why you’d think a temp ban would have no effect on behavior.
Quite the contrary, I think it has (and effectively had) a negative effect on their behavior. Unless if silencing them, by your standards, would be an indication of a pacified behavior.
Just a 3day temp ban, tho
How can you see that? I was really liking Makan’s effort to generate weekly conversation, then saw yesterday they were banned and had to look back in their history to find this whole thread. I’ve got no dog in this fight as I’m stuck in a region where our only option is a practically defunct DSA chapter so was just floating through the lefty void.
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Gonna check modlog now. Thanks.
The tenporary ban seems uncalled for since the only “rude” thing they said is quoting an OC’s use of the word “ass”.
And causing arguments in the matrix server is perhaps contingently tied to the first, unjustified ban. Don’t you think?
It’s in the modlog:
https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog
I also like Makan, and think they have great contributions.
I’m not an admin, and can’t speak for them. I think there’s something to the temp ban, though. Every party in the U$ is bad in some way, and it’s poor form not to recognize that in some way.
If Makan had just said, “yeah, they’re flawed but they’re the only party around me. I like the work we do here”, that wouldn’t have been a problem.
Just about every criticism that was put forward of CPUSA was warranted (if kind of piled on, and not really relevant to the thread).
Thanks for the link. I admit I’m a fairly quiet DSA member in my area but we def have our flaws too. I am on the mailing list for CPUSA and was looking into starting up a chapter in my area but I’m not sure if the effort that would be needed to put into it would be worth it since it’s a Republican stronghold and even the Dem presence is shit here.
Still not justified. “uncivilly defending CPUSA, when everyone else in the conversation had valid points.” Really?
Edit: what baffles me is thinking that banning people will somehow reform them.
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CPUSA is flawed (like every party in the U$). It’s an odd move to act like they’re above criticism.
Idk why you’d think a temp ban would have no effect on behavior.
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A temporary ban is analogous to bourgeois criminal punishment, governed by an abstract form of equivalent exchange. In theory and in practice, repressive mechanisms have proven to be counterintuitive, as in the present case. Here is Makan, who’s an active contributor to the platform, causing heated arguments in the matrix chatroom.
Quite the contrary, I think it has (and effectively had) a negative effect on their behavior. Unless if silencing them, by your standards, would be an indication of a pacified behavior.