• 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml
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      20 hours ago

      IMO, they don’t expect Putin to agree. I think they will go to the table knowing Putin will reject it, and then go to the media and be like “SEE, they never wanted a ceasefire. All of those times they claimed to try and have a diplomatic solution were just tricks and lies. Now we come with a real offer and they reject it.” And libs will gobble it up like they did… Every other time the US did this same kind of shit during the Cold war.

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        12 hours ago

        they don’t expect Putin to agree.

        This is why euros wont be involved in any peace process. Say what you will about Trump, I doubt he will do those sort of stunts because he really does just want to get out the mess. He isn’t ideologically or materially bound to continuing the war like the democrats and the european governments so he will be willing to give away most of Ukraine.

        Personally I think trump will keep his cards close for a few months until he can work out a framework with russia. It will look like peace is happening really fast. Ukraine will fold, and trump will tell the euros its over and they should just leave it alone because usa is done fighting in europe and they will be really mad but unable to do anything about it.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOPM
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      2 days ago

      Exactly, there is zero benefit for Russia to agree to one given that they’re winning and all this would accomplish would be to give Ukraine time to consolidate and resupply. I think Putin even said as much when he was doing his Q&A recently.