Yet.

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      Ayn Rand style, “Don’t tread on me” objectivists, no. But they just co-opted the term. Libertarianism is pretty much anarchism, which is incomoatible with right wing beliefs, no matter what an-caps try and tell you. A right wing social order necessitates hierarchy, which anarchism is diametrically opposed to.

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          It’s like you only read two words of my comment. The dickhead rightoidswho call themselves libertarian are NOT libertarian. It is a left wing ideology. You cannot have a society that is both right wing and libertarian. It is impossible.

          That is exactly why those fuckheads bring in bullshit like “natural hierarchy”, to jam their square beliefs into the round hole that is a classless ideology.

          They took a word that already had a meaning, and tried to invert it.

          Yes, it is beyond bonkers to suggest that crypto fascists want to flatten hierarchies. That is why it’s maddeningly stupid for them to call themselves libertarians. Agreeing with them and calling them libertarians is just feeding their lie.

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              That’s exactly what I’ve been saying… that is why they cannot call themselves libertarians. It’s a corruption of what the term means.

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        While yes, libertarian is originally a leftist term, that’s not what I meant.

        I meant the first comment saying most people on new tech are leftists is wrong. Most people who are technophilic are liberals. As in US style Democrat liberals. Which are NOT leftists. At all.

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            Why would you say they aren’t ? They all buy in hard into capitalism.

            Where are all these leftist techies?

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                Hyperbole my friend. Exaggeration.

                But to be much more precise and literal: a good amount of them. Likely even a majority, do.

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      Depends on which libertarian ideology is being expressed. Left libertarians - anarcho-syndicalists libertarian socialists, anarcho-communists are all libertarians. The right wing of anarchism aren’t leftists, the left wing are.

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      I didn’t mean the comment above my first one… I meant the one above that. And where did you get that from what I said?

      I feel the first comment in this chain believes liberals (as in US Democrats) are “leftists”. Which I don’t believe.

      Silicon Valley and the internet in general is filled with (US style) liberals and libertarians. Both are right wing.

      I was agreeing with the comment above me, just adding to it.