• airikr
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    18 days ago

    I wrote a toot as an reply to the video on Mastodon. Turned out that he’s Russian/Ukrainan (“Copyright © 2024 Dmitri Sotnikov” in the footer of his website) and think that EU is worst than China because (what it seems) Meta ignores GDPR. When I asked for a source he linked to this article. After my reply on that, he linked to 2 articles (this and this).

    His toot:

    in China the government has access to the data the same way every western government has access to the data.

    The big difference is that in the west there’s very little regulation to whom the companies can sell the data too.

    You’re just regurgitating propaganda you’ve been fed by your regime here uncritically. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

    I replied:

    I have read about how China treat their people and visitors. Very good that they do have a strong privacy law now, but that doesn’t make them the best on privacy.

    People (both regular and professionals within the field) warns people to interact with services from China because of privacy concerns.

    I am not ashamed of myself. In my eyes, everyone who love how China gather peoples identity and how they welcome tourists/emigrants (privacy-wise), should be ashamed.

    Over and out.

    He responded with “I see your state propaganda you guzzle is doing a good job keeping you scared” and then blocked me.

    Such nice guy :)

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      18 days ago

      He linked you to sources, western ones that are anti-China at that, and you responded with hearsay. The fact that you think this is some sort of own, so much so that you reposted the exchange yourself, is absolutely hilarious.

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        18 days ago

        I don’t think it was some sort of own. I was just as honest as I could be :)

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            18 days ago

            I am aware of USA and EU have a thing together. I am also very keen of my privacy and have read GDPR for Sweden, both for my own sake and for how I should handle others data that uses my websites.

            What have I missed? Please give me links to the sources. I want to learn more.

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              18 days ago

              You were given links to sources, but you decided to ignore them. Why should I waste my time doing the same?

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                18 days ago

                The links I got from him was (in my eyes) not source for EU being worst than China privacy-wise. It was about China having stronger privacy laws these days (maybe stronger than mainly GDPR) and old news that EU are trying to fix.

                It is illegal in EU to gather as much personal data as what China does. That’s all I’m saying.

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                  18 days ago

                  The first article that you re-linked in your original post is about how Meta is ignoring GDPR. If the EU does not enforce GDPR, then it’s useless for protecting your privacy. Contrary to popular belief, Facebook and Instagram are not banned in China. They do not operate there because they are unwilling to abide by China’s stricter privacy laws.

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                    18 days ago

                    I have now read most of the article (I know reddit is violating your privacy, I gave you the link so the bot will give you options to go around with). EU is working on better privacy for us within EU.

                    Contrary to popular belief, Facebook and Instagram are not banned in China.

                    I hope EU will ban both Fecesbook and Instagram in the near future. I HATE Big Tech because they see you as the product + behaving so weird! It (the ban) has been on the table before, but got paused because (what I think is one of the reasons) of lack of alternatives (which is false, there’s plenty of alternatives, HumHub as one of them).

                    If the EU does not enforce GDPR, then it’s useless for protecting your privacy.

                    They are working on it.

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                    18 days ago

                    I found an article on reddit regarding privacy in EU. Will read it when I come back home again and then reply to your message.