Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 hours ago

    I literally quoted you a news article that says that they will work without pay in the event of a shutdown. Why are you pretending the opposite is true?

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      5 hours ago

      The TSA who say that literally Everytime? The TSA that doesn’t control their own payroll? That one?

      2018

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-affect-air-travel/

      Most TSA workers, about 95%, are considered essential, and would therefore remain on the job in the event of a shutdown — but without pay — TSA administrator David Pekoske said in a post on X.

      Guess how many did not get paid.

      2013

      https://www.dhs.gov/archive/news/2015/02/25/tsa-workers-deserve-more-iou

      A shutdown for the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) means that most of our employees would still continue to come to work, without receiving a paycheck for that work until the shutdown ends.

      Guess how many did not get paid.

      A baited hook does not necessitate a bite, sometimes people just say shut to scare you and this is one of those times.

      Notably, I can’t help but notice you aren’t calling it slavery anymore. Have we backed away from that ill thought out and obscenely offensive analogy?

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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        5 hours ago

        Guess how many did not get paid.

        Guess how many did not get paid.

        Since you didn’t provide any sources for whether or not they did get paid after that or how long it took, I have no idea.

        Notably, I can’t help but notice you aren’t calling it slavery anymore. Have we backed away from that ill thought out and obscenely offensive analogy?

        I called it slavery a couple of comments ago. Am I supposed to use the word in every comment?

        It feels like you’re just trolling now. Especially that last part.

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          4 hours ago

          They all get paid, they just might not be paid on time which is not in fact slavery.

          That would be the point in guessing or better yet finding out on your own that they in fact did get paid because not paying people is fraud. Some agencies used their budget surplus to keep paying employees others like the TSA who are poorly managed so far as I’m aware have not.

          If that’s your decision, it’s not one I would make though.

          Everything you could really want to know about how shutdown pay works is in this PDF by the OPM.

          https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/furlough-guidance/unemployment-compensation-for-federal-employees-fact-sheet-december-2018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiF0bb1z7eKAxUVv4kEHXluBB8QFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Xze9BbLSxX50O68D3vREe

          No, I’m trying to get you to accept calling inconvenience slavery is a bit too far.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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            4 hours ago

            Not getting paid on time when you live paycheck-to-paycheck is not “inconvenience.” You must live quite the privileged life to think so.

            No, I’m trying to get you to accept calling inconvenience slavery is a bit too far.

            By needling me for not mentioning it in the last two comments? Try in a different and better way.

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              3 hours ago

              I hate to tell you, that’s an inconvenience not literal slavery.

              You must live a privileged life to compare forced servitude and plays at genetic inferiority to not getting paid.

              Yes.

              Try in a different and better way.

              I don’t need to, you’re still defending your point which is that not getting paid is literally slavery.

              Check yourself, no one is selling their children nor themselves down river. Like how is the fact it is objectively offensive to compare the two not altogether glaring to you?

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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                3 hours ago

                Again, living paycheck-to-paycheck and then not getting paid is not an inconvenience. How do you not know that?

                It’s a way to get your house foreclosed on and a way to have to decide between electricity and food.

                Have you really never been in that sort of financial situation?

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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                    3 hours ago

                    That’s all that matters to you, I guess. As long as it isn’t literally the exact same thing as people in chains picking cotton in the fields, it’s just fine and it doesn’t matter who suffers. So fine. It isn’t literal slavery. It’s just incredibly cruel, especially to children who did nothing to deserve it.

                    Happy?