Okay, I don’t agree with the emotional concept that a fetus is a person innately, but I can at least understand where that type of thinking comes from. Claiming it’s a fully-developed human is just demonstrably wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion, but feelings aren’t facts. I sincerely hope this is a sad attempt at trolling.
This isn’t feelings, it’s science buddy
What YOU’RE saying is opinion & your “opinion” can also be applied on comatose people as well
Next time, curb your gaslighting & try Family planning
Claims science, states no actual science, strawmans up an example that isn’t related to the original in any way. claims gaslighting with no actual reference to gaslighting behavior.
No slurs or personal attacks, but i feel like you’re going for the subtle approach so you probably don’t need those right now.
Hmm, so this is up there, i feel like it’s missing something though, can’t quite place what, but i’ll keep an eye on the replies in case i spot it.
Anyway, 8/10 shitpost, good job, no notes.
While i have you, it sounds like you are a person familiar with how science works and will give me an actual answer rather than deflect.
What is your solution for fetal anomalies that will inevitably lead to stillbirth or death in the first few hours of life? What is your solution for pregnancy abnormalities that put the life of the mother at serious risk? What is your solution for women who are desperately trying to escape monstrously abusive relationships that got pregnant from marital rape or coercion?
I feel like you’re expecting a rational discourse with someone who so far has gone with “BaBy MurDerErS” and “YEah,bUt SciEnCe is On My sIDe” ( without actually stating how ).
They aren’t addressing unwanted pregnancies, medical complication, sexual assault and things outside their carefully crafted headcannon, on purpose.
You’re gonna get handwaving at best, probably some strawman example, righteous indignation with no explained basis perhaps a personal attack.
I would not at all be surprised if they were bordering on the belief that victims of sexual assault can just “decide” to not get pregnant.
That’s the level of critical thinking you’re working with here, i’d manage my expectations if i were you.
I unfortunately attend a religious university for medical school (not by choice, mind you), so I am quite familiar with the mindset displayed here from people with substantially better education.
Weird, all their responses just say Removed for me, like every single comment they’ve ever made. Can you be banned by one instance and not others or something?
I think you can be banned instance wide but i have no idea what kind of shit you’d need to pull to warrant that kind of punitive action.
As far as i know blocking only works one way as well, as in , if they block you they can’t see you, but you can still see them.
Very weird.
Just had a quick look, up to about 4 hours ago they were still playing their solo game of cards against humanity with their own custom deck consisting entirely of fallacies, dogwhistes and scientifically inaccurate “facts”.
So, at least they are consistent …i suppose.
It’s like watching one of those grown-ass men strapped to the gills in munitions throwing an actual toddler tantrum, screaming “I’M FELLING THREATENED” at the 16 year old cashier because they won’t accept their SovCit note as payment.
Proper screening & Gene therapy & more funding into pediatrics
Also, If the mother is at risk then maybe a point could be made, but let’s agree to be honest here
You’re not talking about those rare cases are you
As for rape & coercion, Women have welfare & you should be seeking to punish the criminal & not kill an innocent child
Oh & in many countries that are not US, we have Pre-Natal protections
Screening means termination of non viable fetuses or carrying to stillbirth. Gene therapy is only available for one disease in humans and it isn’t a fetal anomaly. There are malformations that are not compatible with life that are random chance and not something you can predict through genetic analysis.
In America, the leading cause of death of pregnant women is intimate partner homicide. The 2 most lethal times in an abusive relationship are when the victim is trying to leave or the victim is pregnant.
Many women are pressured or coerced into unprotected sex by male partners and most courts wouldn’t prosecute those cases as rape because the woman eventually “consented” under browbeating and duress.
The majority of abortions are sought by women who already have children and are not able to afford or to care for another child and the pregnancy was unplanned. Many other abortions are for serious health problems with the mother or the fetus. Functionally no one is getting abortions as birth control or “recreationally”. It is an unpleasant procedure and women who go through with it do so for important, valid reasons, and your beliefs have no place getting between a woman and the physician caring for her.
Okay, I don’t agree with the emotional concept that a fetus is a person innately, but I can at least understand where that type of thinking comes from. Claiming it’s a fully-developed human is just demonstrably wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion, but feelings aren’t facts. I sincerely hope this is a sad attempt at trolling.
This isn’t feelings, it’s science buddy What YOU’RE saying is opinion & your “opinion” can also be applied on comatose people as well Next time, curb your gaslighting & try Family planning
Claims science, states no actual science, strawmans up an example that isn’t related to the original in any way. claims gaslighting with no actual reference to gaslighting behavior.
No slurs or personal attacks, but i feel like you’re going for the subtle approach so you probably don’t need those right now.
Hmm, so this is up there, i feel like it’s missing something though, can’t quite place what, but i’ll keep an eye on the replies in case i spot it.
Anyway, 8/10 shitpost, good job, no notes.
While i have you, it sounds like you are a person familiar with how science works and will give me an actual answer rather than deflect.
What is the scientific definition of “parasite”?
What is your solution for fetal anomalies that will inevitably lead to stillbirth or death in the first few hours of life? What is your solution for pregnancy abnormalities that put the life of the mother at serious risk? What is your solution for women who are desperately trying to escape monstrously abusive relationships that got pregnant from marital rape or coercion?
That’s…optimistic.
I feel like you’re expecting a rational discourse with someone who so far has gone with “BaBy MurDerErS” and “YEah,bUt SciEnCe is On My sIDe” ( without actually stating how ).
They aren’t addressing unwanted pregnancies, medical complication, sexual assault and things outside their carefully crafted headcannon, on purpose.
You’re gonna get handwaving at best, probably some strawman example, righteous indignation with no explained basis perhaps a personal attack.
I would not at all be surprised if they were bordering on the belief that victims of sexual assault can just “decide” to not get pregnant.
That’s the level of critical thinking you’re working with here, i’d manage my expectations if i were you.
I unfortunately attend a religious university for medical school (not by choice, mind you), so I am quite familiar with the mindset displayed here from people with substantially better education.
That sounds exhausting, but potentially hilarious.
Welp, we’ll never know now. Looks like they nuked their account
Still shows up for me, though i’m almost certainly blocked by them.
On the plus side that allows me to provide solid reviews for the folks at home without having to dive in to meta-reviews of responses to me.
Weird, all their responses just say Removed for me, like every single comment they’ve ever made. Can you be banned by one instance and not others or something?
I think you can be banned instance wide but i have no idea what kind of shit you’d need to pull to warrant that kind of punitive action.
As far as i know blocking only works one way as well, as in , if they block you they can’t see you, but you can still see them.
Very weird.
Just had a quick look, up to about 4 hours ago they were still playing their solo game of cards against humanity with their own custom deck consisting entirely of fallacies, dogwhistes and scientifically inaccurate “facts”.
So, at least they are consistent …i suppose.
It’s like watching one of those grown-ass men strapped to the gills in munitions throwing an actual toddler tantrum, screaming “I’M FELLING THREATENED” at the 16 year old cashier because they won’t accept their SovCit note as payment.
Entertaining, but somehow still sad.
Proper screening & Gene therapy & more funding into pediatrics Also, If the mother is at risk then maybe a point could be made, but let’s agree to be honest here You’re not talking about those rare cases are you As for rape & coercion, Women have welfare & you should be seeking to punish the criminal & not kill an innocent child
Oh & in many countries that are not US, we have Pre-Natal protections
Screening means termination of non viable fetuses or carrying to stillbirth. Gene therapy is only available for one disease in humans and it isn’t a fetal anomaly. There are malformations that are not compatible with life that are random chance and not something you can predict through genetic analysis.
In America, the leading cause of death of pregnant women is intimate partner homicide. The 2 most lethal times in an abusive relationship are when the victim is trying to leave or the victim is pregnant.
Many women are pressured or coerced into unprotected sex by male partners and most courts wouldn’t prosecute those cases as rape because the woman eventually “consented” under browbeating and duress.
The majority of abortions are sought by women who already have children and are not able to afford or to care for another child and the pregnancy was unplanned. Many other abortions are for serious health problems with the mother or the fetus. Functionally no one is getting abortions as birth control or “recreationally”. It is an unpleasant procedure and women who go through with it do so for important, valid reasons, and your beliefs have no place getting between a woman and the physician caring for her.
So damn, this is some premium quality posting right here…let’s see…what do we have?
I’m officially impressed, i knew you had something in the wings and i was rewarded for my faith.
9/10 shitpost, instant classic.
Ooo, gaslighting. Another word you don’t understand. Keep going. I’m so close.
I do & your Opinions are basically “I don’t agree with you, hence you’re factually wrong & crazy”
Oh & since you’re from Lemmy.ml I suggest you migrate to Lemmy.cafe, a friendly advice, just saying (Plenty of Leftists are Pro-Life)
Nah, friend. Opinions are different from scientific facts, even if you believe them super, super hard. In case you aren’t allergic to education, enjoy!
I’m trying so hard not to reply to this nonsense…
Do you believe people who are unresponsive and comatose for a long period should be kept alive despite the families wishes?