Summary

Undocumented Chinese men are alarmed by Trump’s plan to prioritize their deportation, citing baseless national security concerns about “military-age” immigrants.

Many fled political persecution or economic hardship and reject claims of being a threat.

Legal experts warn of racial profiling and expanded ICE raids, urging immigrants to know their rights. Deportation fears grow as China cooperates in repatriation efforts.

Chinese immigrants express anxiety over family separations and harsh consequences if returned, emphasizing they seek safety and stability, not harm.

Critics call Trump’s policies cruel and unjustified.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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          Cool. This is like how I’m also antisemitic for being a Jew who doesn’t support Israel.

          Of course, a lot of people (maybe you) don’t consider Jews to be white. Elon sure doesn’t. So maybe I’m not racist against myself?

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            Whether or not Jews are white depends entirely on which is convenient for the people in power at the time.

            That’s really how whiteness works for everyone since the meaning expanded beyond just Anglo-Saxon Protestants

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            False analogy, no one said anyone was racist against white people for saying they don’t support the US.

            If you’re agreeing with someone who literally maligned a race, you are racist too. Period.

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              Yes, again, I know you think accepting facts is racist, but I’m not going to lie to myself about factual statements.

              Unless you can tell me which group of people is a bigger threat. Feel free to use crime data.

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            I mean I’m sure you agree that being against the state of Israel or being antizionist doesn’t make you antisemitic.

            I don’t particularly know or care if the jewish people are “white” or not. Not really my place to say anyways I suppose.

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              I also agree that white men have been responsible for more problems in the U.S. than any other group of people. Like all but one president.

              If you don’t know who is or is not white, how can you think it is even possible to be racist against white people?

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                how can you think it is even possible to be racist against white people?

                Very easy. If you make or agree with sweeping generalizations about a race, you are racist.

                That’s what racism is.

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                  If you agree with something that is true, you’re a racist? What?

                  Is “black people are far more likely than anyone else to get sickle cell anemia” racist? Because it is a sweeping generalization.

                  Or, if you want to go back to white people and crime, how about- “69.9% of arrested criminals in 2019 were white?” I have to disagree with that fact or I’m a racist? I have to deny reality if I don’t want to be a racist? That’s really what you think?

                  https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

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                    “All strawberries are fruits” does not imply “all fruits are strawberries” .

                    Saying “white people are a threat” is not the same as saying “these people who are a threat are white”.

                    The former is the statement you agreed with, and now you’re desperately trying to paint it as the latter.

                    It’s not. You’re rationalizing racism.

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                Traditionally racism that is based on statistics and aggregate numbers still counts. If someone were to say that black people are on average responsible for [insert problem here], even if it were true, that’s generally considered racist.

                And, that’s a bit silly. I can call someone doing racist black caricatures racist against black people without knowing if some particular country’s population is generally considered to be black.

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                  Traditionally based on what? What tradition is this? Who made it a tradition?

                  And if you can’t determine the criteria for whiteness, how can you know if anything you say is racist? It could be true once you determine the criteria.

                  Also:

                  without knowing if some particular country’s population is generally considered to be black.

                  Jews don’t have a country. Jew and Israeli are not synonyms. That is bigotry.

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                    The analogy still works if we’re talking about a race rather than a country. You’re nitpicking the details, not attacking the actual point being made. The point is that there is no such thing as a strict definition of race, but that such a thing isn’t necessary to talk about race as a concept. It would be like saying “you can’t say you like sandwiches unless you define what a sandwich is”. We all know on the internet that is an impossible definition, but we can still meaningfully talk about sandwiches.

                    Traditionally based on what? What tradition is this? Who made it a tradition?

                    The natural evolution of the English language as determined by multiple societies. I’m using the most common definition of racism that I know. No definition is kore valid than any other in theory, so if you want to explain what you think racism is I’ll switch to talking about your definition.