German Chancellor Olaf Scholz called a confidence vote following the collapse of his coalition government. He has lost the vote, paving the way for elections in February. DW has the latest.
His own party votes “no confidence” for the very guy they’re putting up as their lead candidate for the next election. Everything you ever need to know about honesty in politics.
I think the no-confidence vote to make way for new elections isn’t the bad part here. The bad part is this insane idea, that he can be successful again, after having had to end his government prematurely.
The SPD already tried that move with Schröder. We got 16 years of Merkel out of it… And if the SPD would be anywhere close to the results Schröder achieved back then, they would party for three days straight.
They aren’t only blatantly lying, they are stupid enough to believe their own lies.
On the other hand, I’m not that sad about the SPD’s demise. Since Schröder turned them into a CDU in red, they are redundant. The problem is that nothing filled the giant void that the SPD’s reinvention as just another neoliberal party has left.
I’m genuinely surprised. Got too used to those bastards lying to me.
Still an epitome of democracy with virtually all votes being cast strictly along the party lines. Looks like those overpaid muppets are sitting there just to represent their party leaders, not the people.
I feel you, man. I had to make a feddit account, just to spread the facts.
Still an epitome of democracy
Well… I guess they knew it was in vain to vote for trust anyway. Not sure If everybody really believes in Olaf Scholz still, but by voting for distrust (no matter if that would change anything), it would cause too much party politic issues, and a bad image for the SPD if they all voted distrust. Of course, it’s still fooling people If the majority voted for trust, but don’t believe in the chancellor anymore. But I guess to properly represent the people who voted for SPD, it’s the better move. While I don’t know any younger folks still believing in SPD, some older people still do, and by voting for distrust, I think, they would have fooled the people voting SPD even more. I don’t know If the people who voted SDP still believe in them, but I think it’s the right image portrayed, that a party stands behind their elected leader, especially with the upcoming elections, where Olaf Scholz is their leader again. I guess they will have to stick with him for now, even though there would be more suited people in the SPD, with less negative press (cum-ex) affiliated with them.
I know a few (former) SPD members who are quite pissed off at the party and what Schröder and Scholz turned it into. Their story is all the same. They are old-school social democrats who fail to see any social democracy in the party the SPD has become.
the mechanism isn’t meant for willy-nilly forcing new elections just because the guy in front wants it so.
That is exactly what this mechanism is for. The chancellor is literally the only person that can call for this kind of vote of confidence (Vertrauensfrage).
His own party votes “no confidence” for the very guy they’re putting up as their lead candidate for the next election. Everything you ever need to know about honesty in politics.
I think the no-confidence vote to make way for new elections isn’t the bad part here. The bad part is this insane idea, that he can be successful again, after having had to end his government prematurely.
The SPD already tried that move with Schröder. We got 16 years of Merkel out of it… And if the SPD would be anywhere close to the results Schröder achieved back then, they would party for three days straight.
That, too.
They aren’t only blatantly lying, they are stupid enough to believe their own lies.
On the other hand, I’m not that sad about the SPD’s demise. Since Schröder turned them into a CDU in red, they are redundant. The problem is that nothing filled the giant void that the SPD’s reinvention as just another neoliberal party has left.
What are you guys talking about? “His own paty” could be interpreted as members from the SPD, and they did in majority vote for trust. https://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenum/abstimmung/abstimmung?id=938
I’m genuinely surprised. Got too used to those bastards lying to me.
Still an epitome of democracy with virtually all votes being cast strictly along the party lines. Looks like those overpaid muppets are sitting there just to represent their party leaders, not the people.
I feel you, man. I had to make a feddit account, just to spread the facts.
Well… I guess they knew it was in vain to vote for trust anyway. Not sure If everybody really believes in Olaf Scholz still, but by voting for distrust (no matter if that would change anything), it would cause too much party politic issues, and a bad image for the SPD if they all voted distrust. Of course, it’s still fooling people If the majority voted for trust, but don’t believe in the chancellor anymore. But I guess to properly represent the people who voted for SPD, it’s the better move. While I don’t know any younger folks still believing in SPD, some older people still do, and by voting for distrust, I think, they would have fooled the people voting SPD even more. I don’t know If the people who voted SDP still believe in them, but I think it’s the right image portrayed, that a party stands behind their elected leader, especially with the upcoming elections, where Olaf Scholz is their leader again. I guess they will have to stick with him for now, even though there would be more suited people in the SPD, with less negative press (cum-ex) affiliated with them.
tl;dr: Don’t trust people on the internet ;)
I know a few (former) SPD members who are quite pissed off at the party and what Schröder and Scholz turned it into. Their story is all the same. They are old-school social democrats who fail to see any social democracy in the party the SPD has become.
I never have.
Source: Am a person on the internet.
“Wer hat uns verraten” …
Unfortunately an old SPD tradition dating back more than a century…
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He asked his own people to vote this way to force new elections
And not a single one listend?
What are his own people? Party members? They voted for trust. https://www.bundestag.de/parlament/plenum/abstimmung/abstimmung?id=938
Seriously, do you people even look for sources before making any claims?
German member of his party… Am Primary source
Jaja, have you check the results I posted? Nobody voted “no”, 6 people didn’t submit their vote.
Trolling for rubles? :D
Yes, this is still massively dishonest, as the mechanism isn’t meant for willy-nilly forcing new elections just because the guy in front wants it so.
That is exactly what this mechanism is for. The chancellor is literally the only person that can call for this kind of vote of confidence (Vertrauensfrage).
https://www.bundestag.de/services/glossar/glossar/V/vertrauensfrage-245558
You might be thinking of the constructive vote of no confidence, which is a different mechanism that allows parliament to elect a new chancellor.
https://www.bundestag.de/services/glossar/glossar/K/konst_misstrau-245482