Imagine how cool it would be to see some person yelling about Lenin and Marx, waving their arms around like crazy, newspaper in hand. Wearing one of those old caps, like the one Lenin had.

I know we kind of have a version of it online, but it’s much more atomising and lame. Yelling on internet forums will never compare.

The only people who do soapboxing these days are ultra religious nutters, screaming about the apocalypse or whatever. How the great have fallen, truly.

  • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
    25·
    1 day ago

    Well, you know. Nothing’s stopping you.

    The religious ones were always prominent and you can’t let it put you off.

    See for example Joe Hill’s 1911 song The Preacher and the Slave. It’s a song that addresses the conflict between union soapboxers and religious ones.

    Lyrics from Mudcat:

    Preacher and the Slave 
    Long-haired preachers come out every night,
Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right;
But when asked how 'bout something to eat
They will answer with voices so sweet:

Main Chorus:

You will eat, bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky;
Work and Pray, live on hay,
You'll get pie in the sky when you die.

And the starvation army they play,
And they sing and they clap and they pray.
Till they get all your coin on the drum,
Then they tell you when you are on the bum:

If you fight hard for children and wife
Try to get something good in this life
You're a sinner and bad man, they tell,
When you die you will sure go to hell.

Workingmen of all countries unite,
Side by side we for freedom will fight;
When the world and its wealth we have gained
To the grafters we'll sing this refrain:

Last Chorus:

You will eat, bye and bye,
When you've learned how to cook and to fry
Chop some wood, 'twill do you good
And you'll eat in the sweet bye and bye.

    Utah Phillips has a good version from “We Have Fed You all For A Thousand Years” includes a bit of chit chat with historical context. (I can’t get this to play on any invidious instance for some reason, only youtube.com but it’s worth it if you’ve never heard it.) He’s got some other recordings talking about the larger historical situations of “the free speech fights” in early 20th c califorrnia. It was about worker power and suppression of union organizing.

    Here is a different live version also from Utah Phillips Live at the Rose Wagner Theater, Salt Lake City, Utah, February 2005 (currently working invidious)

    And a recording of Harry McClintock singing it (working invidious) which is like reaching back to the early 20th century.

      • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
        9·
        24 hours ago

        Do you think there isn’t?

        I think this sort of stuff is just unpopular (“because folk music is boring” as he quotes someone else as saying). It doesn’t really translate too well to the current online media. But lots of people are inspired to take it up for at least a little while. But how could anyone live off it?

        David Rovics is one example I know of who is still at work after many years. But I don’t follow closely enough to know of the many other more compelling artists that surely exist.

        Especially if you do not limit yourself to the “white guy with acoustic guitar” definition/aesthetics of folk music.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          7·
          24 hours ago

          I’m more wishing the people that do would have more of an online presence. I’ve met and have gotten to know a handful of them during my travels across the U.S, including Rovics funny enough, but besides Rovics they’re usually struggling to make ends meet with life being life in america and the music is a weekend or special event hobby for them which means doing and learning the online tech wizardry really isn’t in the books for them as much.