• Sundial@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    I’m pretty sure there were more than just Nazis in his kill list. The Old Bolsheviks for example.

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      Well seeing as how your “pretty sure” is from wikipedia, I don’t really give a shit what you think

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          Parenti is a good place to start. Blackshirts and reds is a good place to start with Parenti.
          I loathe Chomsky, but he’s good for libs like you I guess. Palatable, though he’s more than likely just gonna make you an insufferable radlib. If you can do basic self-crit then read manufacturing consent.
          This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong is good too. Required reading really.
          This series about authoritarianism is nice too https://jacobin.com/author/marcie-smith

          There’s no single place I can point you to though. Education isn’t simple or easy, but being curious is. Not just taking everything you assume to be true for granted is important, and feverishly searching for keywords on wikipedia when your views get challenged is not the signs of someone with a solid intellectual foundation for their worldview. When you encounter heterodox opinions, take the time to consider that those that hold them have, like you, grown up in the same environment and so they’ve heard the same things you have. They do not think what you think because they haven’t heard what you have heard. They think differently because they have heard what you have heard and then they decided to look into it. Be curious, be humble when you get challenged and if you have no basis for thinking what you’re thinking, figure out why you think that. To quote a great man: “No investigation, no right to speak.”

          I recommend frequenting the hexbear newsmega where plenty of good sources and analysis of current events can be found.

          I doubt you’ll read any of that though, so just go ignore this comment instead https://hexbear.net/comment/168034

          Edit: At the very very least just fucking use your own favourite source and learn about the black book of communism. Or just click the sources given for the many claims you make and actually read them. It’s biased as hell, but at least you’re engaging with someone engaging with second-hand sources, instead of reading the editorialized summary some neo-nazi cooked up for you

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            Thanks for the suggestions. I found a free copy of This Soviet World. I skimmed through a bit of it and it has some interesting talking points but it’s a bit dated. It was written in 1936. Stalin did a lot after the fact and we learned a lot after the USSR fell.

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              You’re welcome. Yeah I know, as I said there is no single place I can point you to, that’s not how education works. Anyone who claims to have one single source to answer all your questions are just indoctrinating you. If you ask the other users who have taken the time to engage with you, then I’m sure you’ll get more texts.
              Edit: Since we’re talking about declassified intel This one about Stalin from the CIA might be of interest to you

              You can find Parenti on marxists.org and most texts on Annas Archive

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                I appreciate that and you’re not wrong. But the topic of the conversation was Stalin killing a lot of people and not just CEOs. While western media has over exaggerated the numbers, it’s still a substantial amount. It’s well documented that he purged a lot of dissenters in the government and military.

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                  It’s well documented

                  You don’t really know that, you haven’t really provided anything but wikipedia articles. You have looked at no first hand sources and you have provided none.

                  But the topic of the conversation was Stalin killing a lot of people and not just CEOs

                  No, the topic was stalin killing a bunch of CEOs, then you chimed in. The post isn’t a discussion post wanting to engage in vague allegations from people who will feverishly search the wikipedia references for the first book with a title that sounds like it’ll support their claims.

                  Stalin killing a lot of people and not just CEOs.

                  Yeah, nazis. We’ve been through this. At least look through the black book of communism.

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                    You and I can argue the numbers until we’re both blue in the face. But the fact of the matter is he did purge a lot of people out of Russian politics and society. If you think that’s an incorrect statement than you need to explain why.