The point about Mao really got me. The nationalists betrayed and slaughtered the communists on multiple occasions because Chiang Kai-Shek was pissy that the workers liked them more. And every time someone asked the USSR for advice, they were like “just work it out, trust me” like ???
I think that significantly contributed to modern China’s views on foreign interference and language about others meddling in their domestic affair. And the hundred years of colonial pillaging, of course.
Yeah the more I learn about the sino-soviet split the more annoyed I get. It kinda reeks of colonizer brainworms. Then the chinese got those brainworms wrt Cambodia and Afghanistan. I know it’s more complicated than that and I’m being reductive as hell and it’s just now something I’m only kind of learning about so I know my views can change again, but as I see it now, it gives me the vibes of “we need them to live in suffering for a few decades more until we’re ready” (I heard blowback pod quote Molotov about “needing 5-65 years” and I’ve been looking for the quote ever since). I get that mentality, but it’s kind of just reformism with more steps.
I do kinda get it though, it’s easy to say I would’ve done otherwise after several million dead and the first opportunity for peace in several decades.
Yeah. I went back and listened to the afghanistan season right after and realising the chinese had worked with the US against the soviets there too was a real blow to the heart
The point about Mao really got me. The nationalists betrayed and slaughtered the communists on multiple occasions because Chiang Kai-Shek was pissy that the workers liked them more. And every time someone asked the USSR for advice, they were like “just work it out, trust me” like ???
I think that significantly contributed to modern China’s views on foreign interference and language about others meddling in their domestic affair. And the hundred years of colonial pillaging, of course.
Yeah the more I learn about the sino-soviet split the more annoyed I get. It kinda reeks of colonizer brainworms. Then the chinese got those brainworms wrt Cambodia and Afghanistan. I know it’s more complicated than that and I’m being reductive as hell and it’s just now something I’m only kind of learning about so I know my views can change again, but as I see it now, it gives me the vibes of “we need them to live in suffering for a few decades more until we’re ready” (I heard blowback pod quote Molotov about “needing 5-65 years” and I’ve been looking for the quote ever since). I get that mentality, but it’s kind of just reformism with more steps.
I do kinda get it though, it’s easy to say I would’ve done otherwise after several million dead and the first opportunity for peace in several decades.
Blowback was kinda heartbreaking this year because the Chinese brain worms w/r/t Vietnam and the Soviets really caused harm in that region.
Yeah. I went back and listened to the afghanistan season right after and realising the chinese had worked with the US against the soviets there too was a real blow to the heart