• Kaboom@reddthat.com
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      5 days ago

      World isn’t tankie. They just have shitty mods like the rest of the Internet.

      Ml is tankie, lemmygrad is tankie, solarpunk is tankie, hexbear is tankie, but not world.

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        5 days ago

        This is the first time I’m hearing about Solarpunk being outright tankie, rather than just leftist. Can you point to something that shows this so I can learn more?

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          3 days ago

          We did it guys.

          When everybody’s a tankie, no one will be.

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          I browse solarpunk often.

          I wouldn’t call them tankies. At all. Maybe a couple here or there might be, but if there are then they aren’t vocal.

          Definitely leftist.

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            Thank you for the insight from someone who sees the situation from closer inspection - also, that is well said imho:-).

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          They believe that communism is the only way to solve environmental issues, which is not a great solution to anything.

          What makes me think that they’re tankie though is the near constant Chinese propaganda, usually about EVs.

          If they aren’t Tankies, then they’re incredibly suspicious

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              This guy is a right wing troll. They regularly post on the conservative community on my instance and pick fights with people. Anyone that is not right wing is probably a tankie for this guy.

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                World isn’t tankie and they’re left wing.

                Sanders isn’t a tankie.

                Not a troll, or even properly right wing, just right of most of Lemmy, which is a low bar.

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            Upvoting for helpful discussion. I think the word you could be looking for is leftist, though I’m no expert.

            What I do know is that tankies, highly ironically, only pretend to be leftists, while actually denying reality itself. Some Trumpists are this way on the Alt Right as well.

            One short definition of a tankie is that they deny what happened in the Tiananmen Square massacre, specifically they don’t believe that anyone died (or variations thereof), despite literally all evidence including videos and statements of people who were literally fucking there first-hand. Again there are counterparts on the right as well e.g. the holocaust deniers, and the similarities are striking.

            A defining characteristic of a tankie instance, for me, is not the source of their political viewpoints and rather the hostility and toxicity that they spew forth onto others with seemingly no regard for things like “consent”. It’s a zealous mindset that ceases to question one’s own beliefs and rather feels entirely justified in unleashing whatever vitriol they choose onto others. So I guess I need a better word then than “tankie” for that:-).

            So leftist != tankie, bc ironically tankie != leftist.

            Relevant post

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        “Tankie” isn’t a synonym for “leftist;” it’s about authoritarianism specifically. Solarpunk is the opposite of “tankie!”

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          Communism is authoritarianism by definition.

          What happens if a worker decides he doesn’t want to work?

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            Every person has their needs met, even if they don’t want to work. Capitalism is artificially creating scarcity to keep profits up. We can create a world where everyone has their needs met by the few that want to provide those needs. That world does not require a state.

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        You’re a right wing nut, you and Tankies are 2 sides of the same coin. And your opinion is about as valid as theirs.

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          Lol people are down voting you for being right, my user tag for them matches your description

          Their name is “kaboom” and they post right wing trash, did you all forget exploding-heads was a thing?