CW: chapter 2 contains a detailed description of child abuse by a parent

Hello comrades, it’s time for our second discussion thread for The Will to Change, covering Chapters 2 (Understanding Patriarchy) and 3 (Being a Boy). Thanks to everyone who participated last week, I’m looking forward to hearing everyone’s thoughts again. And if you’re just joining the book club this week, welcome!

In Ch.2 hooks defines patriarchy, how it is enforced by parental figures and society at large, and the struggle of antipatriarchal parents to raise children outside of these rigid norms when the border culture is so immersed in them. Ch.3 delves deeper into the effects of patriarchy on young boys and girls and the systemic apparatuses that reinforce gender norms.

If you haven’t read the book yet but would like to, its available free on the Internet Archive in text form, as well as an audiobook on Youtube with content warnings at the start of each chapter, courtesy of the Anarchist Audio Library, and as an audiobook on our very own TankieTube! (note: the YT version is missing the Preface but the Tankietube version has it)

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Our next discussion will be on Chapters 4 (Stopping Male Violence) and 5 (Male Sexual Being), beginning on 12/11.

  • Melonius [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    I try to restrict my bad answers to “I need to think about that one a little” because I genuinely do need to think about them more. Another thing kids are great at that isn’t mentioned as much is they will very readily make shit up to explain things. They give me all kinds of reasons for why something happens and those are just the ones they verbalize. For every question they ask there are countless hidden assumptions and contradictions cooking in their heads. Some of them surely get weeded out as they age and learn but all the voluntary things we don’t talk about are just baked in to them passively.

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      21 days ago

      For every question they ask there are countless hidden assumptions and contradictions cooking in their heads. Some of them surely get weeded out as they age and learn but all the voluntary things we don’t talk about are just baked in to them passively.

      This make sense because there is a lot in our world that is strange if you think about it. Everything from the sun rising everyday, motorized vehicles zipping around, using paper in exchange for things and every cultural rule. It makes sense that children have questions and some are based on magical thinking. Since so much is magical thinking.

      Also “I need to think about that one a little” and “I don’t know” are great answers for children. It shows that you don’t have know everything as an adult